Hate speech on Ratz. Should we tolerate it?

[Coito ergo sum]

Fucking Canadians. They should all experience an evening of social awkwardness!!

I thought it was an aspect of Canadianness to nearly constantly experience social awkwardness...

[FBM]

Fucking Canadians. They should all experience an evening of social awkwardness!!

I thought it was an aspect of Canadianness to nearly constantly experience social awkwardness...

Alright, you got me there. But still...they send their bears down to the US to take jobs from 'Murkun bears!!!

[Coito ergo sum]

Fucking Canadians. They should all experience an evening of social awkwardness!!

I thought it was an aspect of Canadianness to nearly constantly experience social awkwardness...

Alright, you got me there. But still...they send their bears down to the US to take jobs from 'Murkun bears!!!

I heard the Canadians had massed 80% of their population right along the US-Canada border. I think it's a sure sign of an impending invasion.

[FBM]

Fucking Canadians. They should all experience an evening of social awkwardness!!

I thought it was an aspect of Canadianness to nearly constantly experience social awkwardness...

Alright, you got me there. But still...they send their bears down to the US to take jobs from 'Murkun bears!!!

I heard the Canadians had massed 80% of their population right along the US-Canada border. I think it's a sure sign of an impending invasion.

No doubt whatsoever in my mind. Sneaky, polite bastids. That's why I moved to Korea, where you know who the enemy is. Well, sometimes, anyway. But is is harder to find Canadian bacon over here, tho.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

At least the Canadians don't send their trolls down here.


Oh, wait...

[charlou]

Lessons from a country that doesn't tolerate hate speech.

Saudi Arabia to Give Australian 500 Lashes, Jail for Blasphemy
Insulting the friends of the founder of Islam earned an Australian national 500 lashes and a year in jail in Saudi Arabia last month.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/ ... t-JErK5Pjx

Stop the hate! The Saudis, putting up the good fight!

That's clearly a strawman argument to the OP, innit? The OP had to do with racism, not religion or blasphemy. I don't think "Insulting the friends of..." is hate speech. "All fucking niggers must fucking hang" would be an example of hate speech.

Blah blah fucking blah ... so it may or may not be in the right thread ...

Is this story for real? I hadn't heard anything about it until reading it just now.

A man is facing 500 fucking lashes? And I'm reading you guys arguing over ... I dunno, what are you arguing over ... ? So surreal.

Five Hundred Fucking Lashes.

Sickening.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Hey, that's lenient for the 8th century.

[Seth]

Sounds like a good reason to avoid going to Saudi Arabia...or learn to be polite and STFU about religion when you're in someone else's home.

It's not like it's news that the Saudis are hard-line Muslims who don't tolerate criticism of Islam, now is it?

[Coito ergo sum]

Lessons from a country that doesn't tolerate hate speech.

Saudi Arabia to Give Australian 500 Lashes, Jail for Blasphemy
Insulting the friends of the founder of Islam earned an Australian national 500 lashes and a year in jail in Saudi Arabia last month.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/ ... t-JErK5Pjx

Stop the hate! The Saudis, putting up the good fight!

That's clearly a strawman argument to the OP, innit? The OP had to do with racism, not religion or blasphemy. I don't think "Insulting the friends of..." is hate speech. "All fucking niggers must fucking hang" would be an example of hate speech.

Blah blah fucking blah ... so it may or may not be in the right thread ...

Is this story for real? I hadn't heard anything about it until reading it just now.

A man is facing 500 fucking lashes? And I'm reading you guys arguing over ... I dunno, what are you arguing over ... ? So surreal.

Five Hundred Fucking Lashes.

Sickening.

Yes, the story is real. I think it's on the right thread.

I mocked Saudi Arabia for this. I think it is emblematic of why we don't want to allow the government to be the arbiter of what speech is illegal and what isn't. The loonies take control and start whipping people for insults.

[Coito ergo sum]

Sounds like a good reason to avoid going to Saudi Arabia...or learn to be polite and STFU about religion when you're in someone else's home.

It's not like it's news that the Saudis are hard-line Muslims who don't tolerate criticism of Islam, now is it?

No, it's not news that the Saudis are hard line about this. That's why I posted it here, as evidence of why rules against "hate speech" are stupid, whether in civil life or on a forum message board. Whether something is hate speech starts to depend on who is in control.

And, Saudi Arabia is not a house, it's a country, and the people in Saudi Arabia have as much a right to individual liberty as we do here in the US. They are simply being denied it by their civil authorities.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Sounds like a good reason to avoid going to Saudi Arabia...or learn to be polite and STFU about religion when you're in someone else's home.

It's not like it's news that the Saudis are hard-line Muslims who don't tolerate criticism of Islam, now is it?

Yeah! And the Klan ain't nuthing but good ole' boys. So if you darkies don't like it, get the fuck out of Indiana.

[Seth]

Sounds like a good reason to avoid going to Saudi Arabia...or learn to be polite and STFU about religion when you're in someone else's home.

It's not like it's news that the Saudis are hard-line Muslims who don't tolerate criticism of Islam, now is it?

Yeah! And the Klan ain't nuthing but good ole' boys. So if you darkies don't like it, get the fuck out of Indiana.

That's different, this is the US, and the Klan doesn't get to engage in illegal activities here.

But the law in Saudi Arabia is pretty clear. It's their shithole of a country, and they have a right to enforce their laws, even against arrogant foreigners. They may be shitheads for doing so, but if you visit a shithead country, you rub shit on your head or you get out.

[Coito ergo sum]

Sounds like a good reason to avoid going to Saudi Arabia...or learn to be polite and STFU about religion when you're in someone else's home.

It's not like it's news that the Saudis are hard-line Muslims who don't tolerate criticism of Islam, now is it?

Yeah! And the Klan ain't nuthing but good ole' boys. So if you darkies don't like it, get the fuck out of Indiana.

That's different, this is the US, and the Klan doesn't get to engage in illegal activities here.

But the law in Saudi Arabia is pretty clear. It's their shithole of a country, and they have a right to enforce their laws, even against arrogant foreigners. They may be shitheads for doing so, but if you visit a shithead country, you rub shit on your head or you get out.

The government doesn't have rights.

[Seth]

Sounds like a good reason to avoid going to Saudi Arabia...or learn to be polite and STFU about religion when you're in someone else's home.

It's not like it's news that the Saudis are hard-line Muslims who don't tolerate criticism of Islam, now is it?

Yeah! And the Klan ain't nuthing but good ole' boys. So if you darkies don't like it, get the fuck out of Indiana.

That's different, this is the US, and the Klan doesn't get to engage in illegal activities here.

But the law in Saudi Arabia is pretty clear. It's their shithole of a country, and they have a right to enforce their laws, even against arrogant foreigners. They may be shitheads for doing so, but if you visit a shithead country, you rub shit on your head or you get out.

The government doesn't have rights.

It does in Saudi Arabia, and indeed most of the rest of the world, including the UN. Only in America (so far as I know) is the government by, of, and for the People and has NO rights, but only delegated powers and authorities from the People, any or all of which may be revoked by the will of the People.

That's one of the fundamental differences between the US and every other nation. Elsewhere, the people (little "p") are the subjects and vassals of the government. Here, the People are the masters, and the government their servant.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Sounds like a good reason to avoid going to Saudi Arabia...or learn to be polite and STFU about religion when you're in someone else's home.

It's not like it's news that the Saudis are hard-line Muslims who don't tolerate criticism of Islam, now is it?

Yeah! And the Klan ain't nuthing but good ole' boys. So if you darkies don't like it, get the fuck out of Indiana.

That's different, this is the US, and the Klan doesn't get to engage in illegal activities here.

But the law in Saudi Arabia is pretty clear. It's their shithole of a country, and they have a right to enforce their laws, even against arrogant foreigners. They may be shitheads for doing so, but if you visit a shithead country, you rub shit on your head or you get out.

So, if it's "legal", nothing should be done about it?