Hate speech on Ratz. Should we tolerate it?

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Re: Hate speech on Ratz. Should we tolerate it?

Post by Trolldor » Fri Aug 27, 2010 4:30 pm

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Robert_S wrote:Where else in the whole wide net could Gawd have had to post with an Israeli flag? I've noticed that Toontown has stopped using the word "Neoprog" so much. What forum besides Ratz could have accomplished that? I'm 10 times more laid back in general after joining this forum than I was.

I think Ratz has a good thing going with the existing approach.
Indeed we do. :cheers:


That said, I think many people prefer authority and boundaries (urggg) and that's reflected in the number of forums which offer those things and the size of their memberships. It's great when people find us and enjoy what we have here and become a part of it too.
They enjoy it until they hit a wall, at which point suddenly it's 'oppressive'.
What do you mean? When the freedom comes back and smacks their sensibilities in the face?
Something like that.


I meant, they always want limitations on everything that they have no intention of doing or using, but when they do use it they want it as unrestricted as possible.
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Re: Hate speech on Ratz. Should we tolerate it?

Post by Tigger » Fri Aug 27, 2010 10:01 pm

[/serious]Fucking Jedi Knights. Bunch of wankers with their hoodies and flashlights. C'mon, you gay pufters, one at a time, or all at once, it makes no difference to me![serious]
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Post by Svartalf » Fri Aug 27, 2010 10:13 pm

gay poofters? Aren't you getting, like, pleonastic there?
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Post by Trolldor » Fri Aug 27, 2010 10:18 pm

Svartalf wrote:gay poofters? Aren't you getting, like, pleonastic there?
Smelly Frenchman.
"The fact is that far more crime and child abuse has been committed by zealots in the name of God, Jesus and Mohammed than has ever been committed in the name of Satan. Many people don't like that statement but few can argue with it."

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Post by Svartalf » Sat Aug 28, 2010 8:56 am

or unsefferably smug brit...
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Post by Toontown » Sat Sep 11, 2010 4:35 am

Robert_S wrote: Where else in the whole wide net could Gawd have had to post with an Israeli flag? I've noticed that Toontown has stopped using the word "Neoprog" so much. What forum besides Ratz could have accomplished that? I'm 10 times more laid back in general after joining this forum than I was.

I think Ratz has a good thing going with the existing approach.
You unduly flatter yourself. Actually, I've stopped using any words at all in the last couple of weeks.

Calling people "neoprogs" is not hate speech. It is simple, justified ridicule of an obsessively radical and generally idiotic belief system.

When the day comes when, in the real world, I am charged with "hate speech" for ridiculing loony leftoid belief systems, I will already have understood that the reign of Large Sibling has begun, and the end of the human spirit as many of us knew it has come.

I already know the reign of Small Sibling began years ago in most moderated political forums, which are, for the most part, virtual political indoctrination camps. I used to find such bozo buses extremely annoying, but I don't concern myself much with them any more.

I like the mods here, and some of the posters aren't total zombies. That's why I'm not giving y'all much hell.


Want to talk about hate speech? I'll show you some hate speech:


“Dig it! First they killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them. They even shoved a fork into the victim’s stomach! Wild!”

These are the words of Bernadette Dohrn, a leader of the communist "weathermen" revolutionaries who planned to murder 20 million people, and an ancestor of today's "neoprogs".

That is hate speech. Gawd's occasional mild excesses pale to insignificance when compared to the hateful bile of a committed, indoctrinated communist.

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Re: Hate speech on Ratz. Should we tolerate it?

Post by Robert_S » Sat Sep 11, 2010 9:42 am

I did not mean to imply that the word "neoprog" was "hate speech".

But it is damned annoying. Loony-leftoid is a little better.

It seems to me that the thought out, pro-enlightenment, somewhat socialist leaning, anti-communist, anti-libertarian, tolerant except when exasperated political position of person like myself could easily be accidentally painted over with that term.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Re: Hate speech on Ratz. Should we tolerate it?

Post by JimC » Sat Sep 11, 2010 9:44 am

Robert_S wrote:I did not mean to imply that the word "neoprog" was "hate speech".

But it is damned annoying. Loony-leftoid is a little better.

But it seems to me that the thought out, pro-enlightenment, somewhat socialist leaning, anti-communist, anti-libertarian, tolerant except when exasperated political position of person like myself could easily be accidentally painted over with that term.
C'mon, admit it, you are a fully paid up Sensible Centrist like me!

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Re: Hate speech on Ratz. Should we tolerate it?

Post by Robert_S » Sat Sep 11, 2010 9:46 am

JimC wrote:
Robert_S wrote:I did not mean to imply that the word "neoprog" was "hate speech".

But it is damned annoying. Loony-leftoid is a little better.

But it seems to me that the thought out, pro-enlightenment, somewhat socialist leaning, anti-communist, anti-libertarian, tolerant except when exasperated political position of person like myself could easily be accidentally painted over with that term.
C'mon, admit it, you are a fully paid up Sensible Centrist like me!

:hehe:
In the Merkin sense or in the global sense?
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Re: Hate speech on Ratz. Should we tolerate it?

Post by JimC » Sat Sep 11, 2010 9:49 am

Robert_S wrote:
JimC wrote:
Robert_S wrote:I did not mean to imply that the word "neoprog" was "hate speech".

But it is damned annoying. Loony-leftoid is a little better.

But it seems to me that the thought out, pro-enlightenment, somewhat socialist leaning, anti-communist, anti-libertarian, tolerant except when exasperated political position of person like myself could easily be accidentally painted over with that term.
C'mon, admit it, you are a fully paid up Sensible Centrist like me!

:hehe:
In the Merkin sense or in the global sense?
Hopefully global!

(But more rationally skeptical about the traps of ideology of whatever extreme or delusion...)
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Re: Hate speech on Ratz. Should we tolerate it?

Post by surreptitious57 » Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:43 pm

As that famous Irish philosopher Jean Paul Sartre once observed ; Hell is other people

Don ' t know which county he was from though. Probably the same one as Cormac.
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Post by Coito ergo sum » Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:30 pm

Hate speech is the determination that someone else's speech "crosses the line," while at the same time there is no consistently, objectively or fairly applied "line."

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Post by Coito ergo sum » Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:47 pm

You people are quite hateful. Time for you to brought to the dock to account for your crimes.

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Post by surreptitious57 » Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:49 pm

Hate comes from the heart, not the mouth.
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Re: Hate speech on Ratz. Should we tolerate it?

Post by Coito ergo sum » Fri Jun 24, 2011 2:12 pm

surreptitious57 wrote:Hate comes from the heart, not the mouth.
One person's hate, is another person's mild aversion.

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