What is an MRA?

[Pappa]

I think Drew is the only self-proclaimed MRA I know.

[Animavore]

I never understand the beef with these MRAs anyway. If it were me I'd be happy only seeing the kids once a month or so. Less work for me

[DaveDodo007]

Men's rights activists. Well I'm sure there are some who think they are reasonable, but like feminists they are wrong. Again it is a cultural critique, it is not about rights but demands. That there are certain cultural assumptions which are biased towards men and against men is obvious, because there are cultural assumptions that are biased towards and against any group. However even if these assumptions create a change in the legal climate, as the sexist quote that Tyr points out above suggests, they are not a restriction of a right, except when they restrict access to their children.

This, as I see it is the main legitimate gripe these men have but it conflicts with the current cultural narrative and thus is dismissed. Still welcome to equality, no one gets what they want all the time. That means you guys, that means you ladies, and you... whatever the fuck you choose to call yourselves.

[DaveDodo007]

I think I used the wrong 'this' smiley, what the fuck does 'this huh' actually mean?

[Thinking Aloud]

I think I used the wrong 'this' smiley, what the fuck does 'this huh' actually mean?

It's a kind of uncertain 'this', hence the question mark.

[Sean Hayden]

Aye, I ran into that same problem the other day. I just assumed there was one this, the enthusiastic one. But this being Rationalia, I should have known better.

[Thinking Aloud]

Aye, I ran into that same problem the other day. I just assumed there was one this, the enthusiastic one. But this being Rationalia, I should have known better.

I just make 'em.

[Pappa]

I never understand the beef with these MRAs anyway. If it were me I'd be happy only seeing the kids once a month or so. Less work for me

Yeah well, some of us would like to see our kids a lot more than that. Four days a month just doesn't seem remotely reasonable to me, yet it's the norm here.

[Robert_S]

I never understand the beef with these MRAs anyway. If it were me I'd be happy only seeing the kids once a month or so. Less work for me

Yeah well, some of us would like to see our kids a lot more than that. Four days a month just doesn't seem remotely reasonable to me, yet it's the norm here.

I think here the norm is some kind of more-or-less equal arrangement.

[Cormac]

I never understand the beef with these MRAs anyway. If it were me I'd be happy only seeing the kids once a month or so. Less work for me

Yeah well, some of us would like to see our kids a lot more than that. Four days a month just doesn't seem remotely reasonable to me, yet it's the norm here.

I think here the norm is some kind of more-or-less equal arrangement.

Ireland and the UK are utterly weighted against men in family law scenarios.

Very often, fathers end up in penury following marital failures - according to the lecturers in family law at Blackhall Place in 2012. (Blackhall Place is the lawschool for the Law Society in Ireland).

[Robert_S]

Men's rights activists. Well I'm sure there are some who think they are reasonable, but like feminists they are wrong. Again it is a cultural critique, it is not about rights but demands. That there are certain cultural assumptions which are biased towards men and against men is obvious, because there are cultural assumptions that are biased towards and against any group. However even if these assumptions create a change in the legal climate, as the sexist quote that Tyr points out above suggests, they are not a restriction of a right, except when they restrict access to their children.

This, as I see it is the main legitimate gripe these men have but it conflicts with the current cultural narrative and thus is dismissed. Still welcome to equality, no one gets what they want all the time. That means you guys, that means you ladies, and you... whatever the fuck you choose to call yourselves.

I think cultural critique is quite important. Culture is where our laws come from. It's in the attitudes of our cops, prosecutors and judges. It's in the plaintiffs, the victims and the perpetrators.

If all the people in the justice system assume women are weak and men are strong, that's going to make a hell of a lot of difference if, say, I get beat up by a woman.

If everyone in the court believes that real men are cold breadwinners and women are nurturing homemakers, that's going to make a hell of a lot of difference in custody cases are decided.

If the mods at this forum believe that men are thick skinned and hardnosed while women are frail shrinking violets, that's going to make a difference in how mod decisions come down.

[Azathoth]

This is an MRA

http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/go ... sing-anya/

Long read but worth it. The vid is worth a watch too if you feel like getting into a rage. I defy anyone to watch it and not want to kick the obnoxious fat bitch in the purple right in the cunt.

[JimC]

Robert S wrote:

If the mods at this forum believe that men are thick skinned and hardnosed while women are frail shrinking violets, that's going to make a difference in how mod decisions come down.

...feels nose...

...quite soft, actually...

[Robert_S]

Robert S wrote:

If the mods at this forum believe that men are thick skinned and hardnosed while women are frail shrinking violets, that's going to make a difference in how mod decisions come down.

...feels nose...

...quite soft, actually...

Wuss!

[Robert_S]

This is an MRA

http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/go ... sing-anya/

Long read but worth it. The vid is worth a watch too if you feel like getting into a rage. I defy anyone to watch it and not want to kick the obnoxious fat bitch in the purple right in the cunt.

Evidence for any of this being true?