Texas has quite a debate going on. Very heated on both side.Major Eyeswater wrote:I know there has been quite a lot of debate as to whether lethal injection (as applied in the US) is humane. I don't really like reading about it as I find the subject upsetting.
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Texans debate?Gawdzilla wrote:Texas has quite a debate going on. Very heated on both side.Major Eyeswater wrote:I know there has been quite a lot of debate as to whether lethal injection (as applied in the US) is humane. I don't really like reading about it as I find the subject upsetting.
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Texas style. (Google "OK Corral" or "Massacre".)Major Eyeswater wrote:Texans debate?Gawdzilla wrote:Texas has quite a debate going on. Very heated on both side.Major Eyeswater wrote:I know there has been quite a lot of debate as to whether lethal injection (as applied in the US) is humane. I don't really like reading about it as I find the subject upsetting.
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so far, nitrogen asphyxiation wins...
(is the new way that Dr Nitschke is suggesting? I know it involves a gas cylinder and a 'commonly available gas' and is undetectable in the body after death)
(is the new way that Dr Nitschke is suggesting? I know it involves a gas cylinder and a 'commonly available gas' and is undetectable in the body after death)

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Does anybody else remember a quite recent (no more than a couple of years, IIRC) BBC documentary fronted by Michael Portillo where he examined the various methods of execution both already used and potentially new ones, and nitrogen asphyxiation came out way ahead of anyhing else by a long way?Major Eyeswater wrote:Bullshit. Suffocation is excruciating due to the build-up of carbon dioxide in the blood.Nice peaceful death from slow suffocation.
Asphyxiation by inert gas such as nitrogen or argon would be better since CO2 cannot be produced and therefore cannot build up in the blood and what there already is in there is expelled.
In a pure nitrogen atmosphere - such as would occur using a regulator and mask - unconsciousness occurs within about 2 minutes and death of the medulla oblongata within about 10 minutes.
Inert gas asphyxiation has been proposed as a humane means of capital punishment. So far it has not been adopted because......well, I suppose people don't want to be humane to death row inmates - they want to get their revenge by knowing that the prisoner will suffer.
Edit:- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrogen_asphyxiation
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I remember that being on but I never saw it. Isn't CO poisoning supposed to be pretty painless too?Shaker wrote:Does anybody else remember a quite recent (no more than a couple of years, IIRC) BBC documentary fronted by Michael Portillo where he examined the various methods of execution both already used and potentially new ones, and nitrogen asphyxiation came out way ahead of anyhing else by a long way?Major Eyeswater wrote:Bullshit. Suffocation is excruciating due to the build-up of carbon dioxide in the blood.Nice peaceful death from slow suffocation.
Asphyxiation by inert gas such as nitrogen or argon would be better since CO2 cannot be produced and therefore cannot build up in the blood and what there already is in there is expelled.
In a pure nitrogen atmosphere - such as would occur using a regulator and mask - unconsciousness occurs within about 2 minutes and death of the medulla oblongata within about 10 minutes.
Inert gas asphyxiation has been proposed as a humane means of capital punishment. So far it has not been adopted because......well, I suppose people don't want to be humane to death row inmates - they want to get their revenge by knowing that the prisoner will suffer.
Edit:- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrogen_asphyxiation
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Yes. It was simply removing the oxygen from the atmosphere, it lead to mild euphoria, followed by unconsciousness then in 5 to 10 minutes death. Looked like a very pleasant way to go.Shaker wrote:Does anybody else remember a quite recent (no more than a couple of years, IIRC) BBC documentary fronted by Michael Portillo where he examined the various methods of execution both already used and potentially new ones, and nitrogen asphyxiation came out way ahead of anyhing else by a long way?Major Eyeswater wrote:Bullshit. Suffocation is excruciating due to the build-up of carbon dioxide in the blood.Nice peaceful death from slow suffocation.
Asphyxiation by inert gas such as nitrogen or argon would be better since CO2 cannot be produced and therefore cannot build up in the blood and what there already is in there is expelled.
In a pure nitrogen atmosphere - such as would occur using a regulator and mask - unconsciousness occurs within about 2 minutes and death of the medulla oblongata within about 10 minutes.
Inert gas asphyxiation has been proposed as a humane means of capital punishment. So far it has not been adopted because......well, I suppose people don't want to be humane to death row inmates - they want to get their revenge by knowing that the prisoner will suffer.
Edit:- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrogen_asphyxiation
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Apparently CO2 poisoning brings on a splitting headache before death.Xamonas Chegwé wrote:I remember that being on but I never saw it. Isn't CO poisoning supposed to be pretty painless too?Shaker wrote:Does anybody else remember a quite recent (no more than a couple of years, IIRC) BBC documentary fronted by Michael Portillo where he examined the various methods of execution both already used and potentially new ones, and nitrogen asphyxiation came out way ahead of anyhing else by a long way?Major Eyeswater wrote:Bullshit. Suffocation is excruciating due to the build-up of carbon dioxide in the blood.Nice peaceful death from slow suffocation.
Asphyxiation by inert gas such as nitrogen or argon would be better since CO2 cannot be produced and therefore cannot build up in the blood and what there already is in there is expelled.
In a pure nitrogen atmosphere - such as would occur using a regulator and mask - unconsciousness occurs within about 2 minutes and death of the medulla oblongata within about 10 minutes.
Inert gas asphyxiation has been proposed as a humane means of capital punishment. So far it has not been adopted because......well, I suppose people don't want to be humane to death row inmates - they want to get their revenge by knowing that the prisoner will suffer.
Edit:- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrogen_asphyxiation
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According to those who have died from it?CJ wrote:Apparently CO2 poisoning brings on a splitting headache before death.Xamonas Chegwé wrote:I remember that being on but I never saw it. Isn't CO poisoning supposed to be pretty painless too?Shaker wrote:Does anybody else remember a quite recent (no more than a couple of years, IIRC) BBC documentary fronted by Michael Portillo where he examined the various methods of execution both already used and potentially new ones, and nitrogen asphyxiation came out way ahead of anyhing else by a long way?Major Eyeswater wrote:Bullshit. Suffocation is excruciating due to the build-up of carbon dioxide in the blood.Nice peaceful death from slow suffocation.
Asphyxiation by inert gas such as nitrogen or argon would be better since CO2 cannot be produced and therefore cannot build up in the blood and what there already is in there is expelled.
In a pure nitrogen atmosphere - such as would occur using a regulator and mask - unconsciousness occurs within about 2 minutes and death of the medulla oblongata within about 10 minutes.
Inert gas asphyxiation has been proposed as a humane means of capital punishment. So far it has not been adopted because......well, I suppose people don't want to be humane to death row inmates - they want to get their revenge by knowing that the prisoner will suffer.
Edit:- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrogen_asphyxiation
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Gawdzilla wrote:Texas style. (Google "OK Corral" or "Massacre".)Major Eyeswater wrote:Texans debate?Gawdzilla wrote:Texas has quite a debate going on. Very heated on both side.Major Eyeswater wrote:I know there has been quite a lot of debate as to whether lethal injection (as applied in the US) is humane. I don't really like reading about it as I find the subject upsetting.



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Presumably the ones that nearly died from it!Gawdzilla wrote:According to those who have died from it?
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CJ wrote:Presumably the ones that nearly died from it!Gawdzilla wrote:According to those who have died from it?
Apparently, CO poisoning will cause headache before death - how severe I have no idea.
CO2, on the other hand, would be very unpleasant indeed. We regulate our breathing according to how much CO2 is in the blood. If we are unable to displace this CO2 we experience severe discomfort. To get an idea what it would feel like just hold your breath or stop breathing for as long as you can and then imagine not being able to rectify the situation by breathing out.
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Or have a major panic attack.Major Eyeswater wrote:CJ wrote:Presumably the ones that nearly died from it!Gawdzilla wrote:According to those who have died from it?
Apparently, CO poisoning will cause headache before death - how severe I have no idea.
CO2, on the other hand, would be very unpleasant indeed. We regulate our breathing according to how much CO2 is in the blood. If we are unable to displace this CO2 we experience severe discomfort. To get an idea what it would feel like just hold your breath or stop breathing for as long as you can and then imagine not being able to rectify the situation by breathing out.
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Yes there are several 'easy'ways to kill yourself , recommend any to you ......not a fucking chance .The idea of getting back at the world ,mourners
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"A permanent solution to a temporary problem."Feck wrote:Yes there are several 'easy'ways to kill yourself , recommend any to you ......not a fucking chance .The idea of getting back at the world ,mourners
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