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Re: Is God a Theory? "The God Theory"?

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Mon Sep 06, 2010 11:27 pm

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Gawdzilla wrote: You prefer facts.
You don't have any facts.
You must be religious.
I don't need facts. I have faith their is no god. you only have a "clever" theory. just like gravity :funny:
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Re: Is God a Theory? "The God Theory"?

Post by Pappa » Mon Sep 06, 2010 11:28 pm

Santa_Claus wrote:
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Pappa wrote:Surely it would be "The God Hypothesis"?
But that's a cunt to spell. and to pronounce.
"idea"?
Are you suggesting I can only spell 4 letter words?

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Re: Is God a Theory? "The God Theory"?

Post by A Monkey Shaved » Tue Sep 07, 2010 1:02 am

Yes. a stupid theory.
Just because more people believe Jesus is the son of God and not the son of Satan does not make it any truer.

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Re: Is God a Theory? "The God Theory"?

Post by camoguard » Fri Sep 17, 2010 2:00 pm

Santa_Claus wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote: You prefer facts.
You don't have any facts.
You must be religious.
I don't need facts. I have faith their is no god. you only have a "clever" theory. just like gravity :funny:
A theory is a fact. The word theory has a specific meaning from the domain from which it is invoked. A theory implies that it's still a standing theory that has not been debunked, because it wouldn't be a theory then, it would be a falsified hypothesis or something.

Facts aren't de facto truths that can never be changed either. We want that to be true, but as we accumulate knowledge, we'll be forced to revisit our accumulation of facts. This means facts are as fluid as theories. In short, theories are facts. What you're calling a theory is not a theory. When you refer to gravity, you might as well call that a fact. When you're talking about God, you might as well call that a guess.

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Re: Is God a Theory? "The God Theory"?

Post by hiyymer » Fri Sep 17, 2010 2:28 pm

Santa_Claus wrote:Given that many of the religionists are incapable of (or at least not prepared to admit to) understanding scientific theory (evolution. gravity etc) as not actually being simply an idea, perhaps it is time to rebrand the god(s) stuff as simply a theory?

The God Theory? No thanks, I prefer facts :D
A theory implies a rational step, a process of if this is so then this must be so. For people who experience it, God just is (not exists, but is in their experience). They may try to rationalize their experience with theological theories, but that's secondary.

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Re: Is God a Theory? "The God Theory"?

Post by Trolldor » Fri Sep 17, 2010 3:35 pm

So many people missed the point of the OP.
"The fact is that far more crime and child abuse has been committed by zealots in the name of God, Jesus and Mohammed than has ever been committed in the name of Satan. Many people don't like that statement but few can argue with it."

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Re: Is God a Theory? "The God Theory"?

Post by Pappa » Fri Sep 17, 2010 3:37 pm

The Mad Hatter wrote:So many people missed the point of the OP.
And this would be unusual, why?
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Re: Is God a Theory? "The God Theory"?

Post by Trolldor » Fri Sep 17, 2010 3:37 pm

It's not.
I just like pointing it out.
"The fact is that far more crime and child abuse has been committed by zealots in the name of God, Jesus and Mohammed than has ever been committed in the name of Satan. Many people don't like that statement but few can argue with it."

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Re: Is God a Theory? "The God Theory"?

Post by camoguard » Fri Sep 17, 2010 4:56 pm

If you want to rebrand it the God guess, I'm all for it. But one problem with people who dismiss theories as just theories is that they don't get a lot of science vocabulary to begin with. I wouldn't encourage the misuse (as I see it) of "theory".

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Re: Is God a Theory? "The God Theory"?

Post by Santa_Claus » Fri Sep 17, 2010 5:49 pm

The Mad Hatter wrote:So many people missed the point of the OP.
But you only realised because your Mum told you.
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Re: Is God a Theory? "The God Theory"?

Post by A Monkey Shaved » Sat Sep 18, 2010 6:42 am

A belief not a theory, because I have seen no credible scientific paper on a so called God theory. I have heard of plenty of credible scientific papers on other theories - even bad theories which may sound credible at the time - but not a god theory per se.
Just because more people believe Jesus is the son of God and not the son of Satan does not make it any truer.

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Re: Is God a Theory? "The God Theory"?

Post by mistermack » Sat Sep 18, 2010 11:12 am

THE god theory is wrong though. As is THE god hypothesis. There are billions of god theories, or hypotheses. Everybody has a slightly different one. So it's a big job to debunk them all. Perhaps the "God hypotheses" is the best term. You could always copy and paste it, if you can't spell it.

Anyway, does science stick rigidly to the naming rule? Is "string theory" really a theory?
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Re: Is God a Theory? "The God Theory"?

Post by A Monkey Shaved » Sat Sep 18, 2010 12:45 pm

Sound as silly IMHO as the Flying Spaghetti Monster theory (FSM theory) or the Fucking Stupid Moron theory
Just because more people believe Jesus is the son of God and not the son of Satan does not make it any truer.

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Re: Is God a Theory? "The God Theory"?

Post by charlou » Sat Sep 18, 2010 4:09 pm

Santa_Claus wrote:
Pappa wrote:Surely it would be "The God Hypothesis"?
But that's a cunt to spell. and to pronounce.
Maybe so, but in science there's a difference .. Do some research and learn about it.



god as a 'concept' breaks down on every level .. there's nothing tangible, testable or consistent about any facet of the god notion.
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