Coito ergo sum wrote:I agree - but, I am suspicious of people who don't read books. I can't imagine why people don't.Warren Dew wrote:These statistics may be somewhat misleading. There is plenty of reading material that isn't in book form. Granted reading The New York Times Magazine isn't as good as actually reading the books reviewed in that magazine, but it's hardly illiteracy.Coito ergo sum wrote:1/3 of high school graduates never read another book for the rest of their lives.
42 percent of college graduates never read another book after college.
80 percent of U.S. families did not buy or read a book last year
Maybe if you went to the link I provided to culture and reading and read the book about reading you would be able to imagine.
I don't know, actually. About the same way as music, I guess.Warren Dew wrote:How do they prevent piracy?Coito ergo sum wrote:They can be stored in .pdf format
You can. Go to google books.http://books.google.com/ebooks/reader?i ... g=GBS.PR17 One of the great advantages of the Nook or the Kindle, however, is the eInk they use. It's MUCH easier to read them because they aren't back lit and they appear muted, like ink on paper. You can get a leather case with a book light included that let's you read in the dark. Plus, you can't usually take a computer to bed to read, as many people like to do. Or, to the beach, for that matter.Warren Dew wrote:
I'd be a lot more interested in digital books if I could read them as PDFs on my computer screen.
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What link? I probably ignored your post.
You probably aren't permitted to read because of the capitalists. I hear people make money from writing and selling books. Dirty bastards.
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So which is better out of the Kindle and Nook? And why does Laklak want both?
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People don't 'count' much these days either if you look at the state of the global economy? I think the calculator makes mere counting too mundane and like a kind of spreading cognitive gangrene this spreads to the higher skills. So with writing and so much reading matter is dumbed down to the lowest common denomitor, the use of un-inspiring fonts or simplistic fonts to express and demean difficult subjects is so easy on a computer. I do think personally a over-circulation of fonts & word-processors/spell checkers are a overlooked aspect in the decline of reading popularity, the greater efficiency in communication just like a calculator makes a moral hazard towards shoddy comprehension on the part of the recipient.
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I don't know, as I've never used a Kindle. But, I have the Nook and I'm happy with it after 6 months. Easy to download books. Easy to get free ones.Xamonas Chegwé wrote:So which is better out of the Kindle and Nook? And why does Laklak want both?
The kindle has a keyboard, but I've not seen a need for one (Nook doesn't have a keyboard, it has a touch screen).
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Do you download onto a computer, and then transfer to the Nook, or does it have a wireless connection itself?Coito ergo sum wrote:I don't know, as I've never used a Kindle. But, I have the Nook and I'm happy with it after 6 months. Easy to download books. Easy to get free ones.Xamonas Chegwé wrote:So which is better out of the Kindle and Nook? And why does Laklak want both?
The kindle has a keyboard, but I've not seen a need for one (Nook doesn't have a keyboard, it has a touch screen).
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It has a wireless connection that is cost free to the user (cost of that wireless connection is built into the original price of the device). So, you can download 24-7 from anywhere, if you're downloading from Barnes & Noble (but they have lots of low cost books - and even free books). You can also log on the device via wi-fi like at any coffee shop, and go to websites like google books or gutenberg.org and download from there. You can also download to your computer and upload stuff to your device from your computer.JimC wrote:Do you download onto a computer, and then transfer to the Nook, or does it have a wireless connection itself?Coito ergo sum wrote:I don't know, as I've never used a Kindle. But, I have the Nook and I'm happy with it after 6 months. Easy to download books. Easy to get free ones.Xamonas Chegwé wrote:So which is better out of the Kindle and Nook? And why does Laklak want both?
The kindle has a keyboard, but I've not seen a need for one (Nook doesn't have a keyboard, it has a touch screen).
I use the computer to download stuff I want to read for work - any document that can be converted to .pdf can be click-and-dragged to your Nook file on your computer, and then you plug the Nook into the USB port and it automatically syncs. So, you can take a bunch of crap you need to read for work and carry it on an airplane or too the beach in the Nook device.
It's really very convenient. Recommendation: Buy the Nook and when you can buy one of the leather protective cases and get the case that has a reading light built in.
From what I've seen, most Barnes & Noble books are, at present $9.99 and under. Some are like $12.99. Many are 1/2 that, and even cheaper. Like I said in a previous post, I find gems all the time - like a set of 50 classic Sci-Fi books for $1.99. I downloaded a bunch of free obscure stuff too.
If you buy a lot of books at retail, it arguably pays for itself.
Oh - one of the features I like is that it is associated with Barnes & Noble. If you take it to the coffee shop at a Barnes & Noble store, you can sit in the store and read any book in ebook form for free, and they offer different bargains, and like a free desert or something if you buy a coffee.
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Coito ergo sum wrote:It has a wireless connection that is cost free to the user (cost of that wireless connection is built into the original price of the device). So, you can download 24-7 from anywhere, if you're downloading from Barnes & Noble (but they have lots of low cost books - and even free books). You can also log on the device via wi-fi like at any coffee shop, and go to websites like google books or gutenberg.org and download from there. You can also download to your computer and upload stuff to your device from your computer.JimC wrote:Do you download onto a computer, and then transfer to the Nook, or does it have a wireless connection itself?Coito ergo sum wrote:I don't know, as I've never used a Kindle. But, I have the Nook and I'm happy with it after 6 months. Easy to download books. Easy to get free ones.Xamonas Chegwé wrote:So which is better out of the Kindle and Nook? And why does Laklak want both?
The kindle has a keyboard, but I've not seen a need for one (Nook doesn't have a keyboard, it has a touch screen).
I use the computer to download stuff I want to read for work - any document that can be converted to .pdf can be click-and-dragged to your Nook file on your computer, and then you plug the Nook into the USB port and it automatically syncs. So, you can take a bunch of crap you need to read for work and carry it on an airplane or too the beach in the Nook device.
It's really very convenient. Recommendation: Buy the Nook and when you can buy one of the leather protective cases and get the case that has a reading light built in.
From what I've seen, most Barnes & Noble books are, at present $9.99 and under. Some are like $12.99. Many are 1/2 that, and even cheaper. Like I said in a previous post, I find gems all the time - like a set of 50 classic Sci-Fi books for $1.99. I downloaded a bunch of free obscure stuff too.

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Oh, it also can play music files, and you can use it to listen to audio books.
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Oh - I may have misspoken - I am not sure if I can download to the device directly from like gutenberg.org or another site. I know for fact you can download anything to a .pdf or epub format and read it on the Nook - but, I am not quite sure how to go to a website and download something directly to the device. I'm not the most tech-savvy, so check with the guy at the Nook stand at the B&N store, they are pretty informative. I'll try to remember next time I am there and ask him to show me how to do it, if it's possible.
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I'm dabbling with temptation...klr wrote:Oh no ... JimC is being seduced by the Dark Side!

School is starting to introduce iPads for the lower classes, which will progressively work its way up the school; eventually, I will get one, I suppose. However, from what I gather, for purely book-reading purposes, a kindle or a nook are both better and cheaper...
Yes, I need to find somewhere in Melbourne where I can see one in action before I make a decision anyway.Coito ergo sum wrote:Oh - I may have misspoken - I am not sure if I can download to the device directly from like gutenberg.org or another site. I know for fact you can download anything to a .pdf or epub format and read it on the Nook - but, I am not quite sure how to go to a website and download something directly to the device. I'm not the most tech-savvy, so check with the guy at the Nook stand at the B&N store, they are pretty informative. I'll try to remember next time I am there and ask him to show me how to do it, if it's possible.
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I actually prefer backlit screens. Or at least I prefer the one I have, even to physical books.Coito ergo sum wrote:It's MUCH easier to read them because they aren't back lit and they appear muted, like ink on paper. You can get a leather case with a book light included that let's you read in the dark. Plus, you can't usually take a computer to bed to read, as many people like to do. Or, to the beach, for that matter.
Part of that may be that I really need a new glasses prescription, though.
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There is a backlit Nook too, which is basically a tablet PC of sorts.
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