Your clone takes over when you die. Is that you or not?

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Re: Your clone takes over when you die. Is that you or not?

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Sep 22, 2009 1:22 pm

FBM wrote:
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Gawdzilla wrote:Sorry, but I don't see the "science" in something that can't be observed or tested (to my satifaction, anyway).
Changed my mind, dude. I really don't want to fuck with your worldview. Whatever you like is cool with me. :cheers:
Just arguing for the hell of it, of course. :tup:

The unfalsibility of the "spirit" puts it outside the realm of science, IMHO. Would you agree?
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Re: Your clone takes over when you die. Is that you or not?

Post by FBM » Tue Sep 22, 2009 1:26 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:Just arguing for the hell of it, of course. :tup:
I'm just doing it to practice expressing it. I'm planning to start grad school in Philosophy soon. Need my brain to be on its toes.
The unfalsibility of the "spirit" puts it outside the realm of science, IMHO. Would you agree?
No. :biggrin:
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Re: Your clone takes over when you die. Is that you or not?

Post by Trolldor » Fri Sep 25, 2009 5:51 pm

The unfalsibility of the "spirit" puts it outside the realm of science, IMHO. Would you agree?
Nothing is beyond the realm of science. This isn't a reverence for the mighty powers of science, but because science is the labeling and comprehension of the pre-existing. In short, it is detecting what is already there and nothing more. If a 'spirit' exists at all, it is measurable by some objective method. Everything in this universe impacts something else in a measurable quantity, even if the scales of which may be beyond human comprehension, they are not beyond the scope of the consciousless - machines.
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Re: Your clone takes over when you die. Is that you or not?

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Fri Sep 25, 2009 6:30 pm

born-again-atheist wrote:
The unfalsibility of the "spirit" puts it outside the realm of science, IMHO. Would you agree?
Nothing is beyond the realm of science. This isn't a reverence for the mighty powers of science, but because science is the labeling and comprehension of the pre-existing. In short, it is detecting what is already there and nothing more. If a 'spirit' exists at all, it is measurable by some objective method. Everything in this universe impacts something else in a measurable quantity, even if the scales of which may be beyond human comprehension, they are not beyond the scope of the consciousless - machines.
Odd, Mikey Shermer disagrees with you, IIRC. I'll have to look that up.
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