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Re: Yet more problematic stuff

Post by Forty Two » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:04 pm

Animavore wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 6:20 pm
Concerning problems, and not some cracker complaining he's the new oppressed.

A new study about the environment and public health reveals a stark inequity: White populations in the United States contribute more to air pollution than minority Hispanic and black populations. However, Hispanic and black populations are more likely to be breathing in the air pollution that's created.
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/03/13/heal ... T7EFEosXxI
White populations contribute more to air pollution than minority hispanic and black populations?

That "study" couldn't possibly have been written any more obviously with the conclusion in mind before it was prepared. We want to show that white people create more air pollution than black people, so come up with a way to "prove" it. LOL.

First off, hispanic =/= non-white. These shit for brains do this crap all the time. Hispanic does NOT mean brown or black. Hispanic means that you come from a spanish speaking country. They're not "non-white." Most hispanics are white. As of 2010, 50.5 million or 16.3% of Americans identified as Hispanic or Latino. Of those, 26.7 million, or 53%, also self-identified as white. They are part of the "white populations" - so to mix them is not fair.
The study calculated ground-level pollution concentrations and mapped them to different demographic population areas. The result showed that more of this dangerous pollution was concentrated in areas with high black and Hispanic populations.
This pollution "is disproportionately induced by the racial-ethnic majority and disproportionately inhaled by racial-ethnic minorities," the study said
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That's total bullshit - they're saying that whites produce more pollution out of the tailpipes of their cars, but there is more particulate matter/pollution in black and hispanic neighborhoods. What the fuck? The whites in the suburbs are driving their cars around the the barrios and inner cities so that white peoples' pollution is being breathed by the blacks and browns? Of course not. The reason the barrios and inner cities have more pollution is that they are in greater concentrations of people with lots more cars and other engines running - and they're being operated in those areas far more by browns and blacks, not whites. The study pretends the white suburbs' tailpipe pollution is floating over and coalescing in the inner cities for the brown people to breath.

Horse. Shit.

The article half acknowledges the issue -- "Some of it has to do with direct exposure to pollution. So, for instance, living close to freeways or factories would put one at risk of higher pollution exposure." - so white people produce more emissions, but brown people are more likely to live close to the highway. So, that means there is some sort of racial disparity?

This is social justice garbage infecting yet another area of science and research.

They'll say that black and brown people are more likely to be effected by bus accidents, since they're more likely to ride buses, bus accidents is actually a result of racism. It's our racist society! We need policies to equalize bus ridership, so that bus accidents effect every racial group equally.

White collar workers drive more cars and use more consumer goods than blue collar workers! Blue collar workers work in factories making cars and consumer goods! Therefore, blue collar workers are disproportionately exposed to workplace injuries and workplace pollution. Fucking hell.
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Re: Yet more problematic stuff

Post by Cunt » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:08 pm

Animavore wrote:
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...some cracker complaining he's the new oppressed.
What does 'cracker' mean? Does it refer to an occupation?
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Post by JimC » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:35 pm

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Regardless of my apparent colour, I've been treated terribly.
So, you get people's backs up in real life as well? :tea:
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Post by pErvinalia » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:52 pm

No surprises there.
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Post by pErvinalia » Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:22 am

A right-wing terrorist (one can only assume) has shot up a mosque in New Zealand. Slightly more problematic than SJWers.
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https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/brit ... 91051.html

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Post by Svartalf » Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:46 pm

What I don't get is why an Aussie chose to shoot a Kiwi place rather than work at home.
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Post by pErvinalia » Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:47 pm

Probably access to guns, by the sound of it. Also, cops in NZ don't carry guns, whereas they do in Oz.
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Post by Svartalf » Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:51 pm

which is why the terrorists were caught rather than shot where they stood, I see...
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I think the cops with guns had shown up by that point.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Sat Mar 16, 2019 10:42 am

I came across this while reading about
the Christchurch attack and right-wing extremism.

Although in Europe Islamist militant violence has been more common and more lethal, signs of the threat posed by rightwing violence have long existed. In the UK in 2017 there were five terrorist attacks attributed to rightwing extremists.

In the US, violent rightwing activity was linked to at least 50 deaths in 2018. Research by the Anti-Defamation Leagueshowed that over the last decade, 73.3% of all extremist-related fatalities in the US could be linked to domestic right-wing extremists, while 23.4% were attributable to Islamist extremists...
I would suggest that Islamicism is also a form of violent right-wing extremism.
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Post by JimC » Sat Mar 16, 2019 8:24 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 10:42 am
I came across this while reading about
the Christchurch attack and right-wing extremism.

Although in Europe Islamist militant violence has been more common and more lethal, signs of the threat posed by rightwing violence have long existed. In the UK in 2017 there were five terrorist attacks attributed to rightwing extremists.

In the US, violent rightwing activity was linked to at least 50 deaths in 2018. Research by the Anti-Defamation Leagueshowed that over the last decade, 73.3% of all extremist-related fatalities in the US could be linked to domestic right-wing extremists, while 23.4% were attributable to Islamist extremists...
I would suggest that Islamicism is also a form of violent right-wing extremism.
I presume you mean fundamentalist/jihadist Islam...

Although it and current right-wing movements in the West are intersecting sets, where authoritarian and absolutist ideas abound, violence is the main solution and the ends always justify the means, there are also many important points of difference.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Sun Mar 17, 2019 11:13 am

JimC wrote:
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I presume you mean fundamentalist/jihadist Islam...
Yes, in part. By 'Islamicism' I mean anything that advocates and/or agitates for or on behalf of Islam as a political ideology.
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Post by JimC » Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:15 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:
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JimC wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 8:24 pm
I presume you mean fundamentalist/jihadist Islam...
Yes, in part. By 'Islamicism' I mean anything that advocates and/or agitates for or on behalf of Islam as a political ideology.
And that set pretty well intersects with the fundamentalists. Moderate muslims living in the west accept that the political system they are living under is pluralist and secular.
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Re: Yet more problematic stuff

Post by Forty Two » Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:03 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 10:42 am

I would suggest that Islamicism is also a form of violent right-wing extremism.
I would agree wholeheartedly - theocratic - conservative politically and socially to the point of highly authoritarian -- tinges of racism, sexism, anti-gay - etc -- all aspects of the "far right wing extremism." The reason why it's not characterized as such is the infusion of, into the mainstream thought/zeitgeist, the nonsensical notion that Muslims are an oppressed minority, so they gain the sympathy of "the left" (under Progressive Stack/intersectionalist theory) and the left could not countenance support for that which is "right wing." Ergo, Muslim extremism is not right wing extremism - it's an oppressed group lashing out at the white oppressors.
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