Slaughtering and eating cats (NSFW?)

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Re: Slaughtering and eating cats (NSFW?)

Post by Kristie » Fri Sep 28, 2012 3:31 pm

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Seth wrote:A saying from a fishing friend about hatchery-raised Steelhead: "Made by Man, for Man." Same thing with cats. And don't think the cats wouldn't do the same thing to us if they were able to...
Can parents hunt and kill their own children for sport then?
Sure, if they want to go to jail for murder. Cats, on the other hand, don't have civil rights. Neither do Steelhead.
Ah, but is causing suffering for sport the sign of a person with any ethical sense worth speaking of?
So, sport fishermen have basically no ethical sense?
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Re: Slaughtering and eating cats (NSFW?)

Post by Seth » Fri Sep 28, 2012 4:20 pm

Kristie wrote:
Robert_S wrote:
Seth wrote:
Robert_S wrote:
Seth wrote:A saying from a fishing friend about hatchery-raised Steelhead: "Made by Man, for Man." Same thing with cats. And don't think the cats wouldn't do the same thing to us if they were able to...
Can parents hunt and kill their own children for sport then?
Sure, if they want to go to jail for murder. Cats, on the other hand, don't have civil rights. Neither do Steelhead.
Ah, but is causing suffering for sport the sign of a person with any ethical sense worth speaking of?
So, sport fishermen have basically no ethical sense?
Depends on what you mean by "ethics."
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Re: Slaughtering and eating cats (NSFW?)

Post by Robert_S » Fri Sep 28, 2012 5:35 pm

Kristie wrote:
Robert_S wrote:
Seth wrote:
Robert_S wrote:
Seth wrote:A saying from a fishing friend about hatchery-raised Steelhead: "Made by Man, for Man." Same thing with cats. And don't think the cats wouldn't do the same thing to us if they were able to...
Can parents hunt and kill their own children for sport then?
Sure, if they want to go to jail for murder. Cats, on the other hand, don't have civil rights. Neither do Steelhead.
Ah, but is causing suffering for sport the sign of a person with any ethical sense worth speaking of?
So, sport fishermen have basically no ethical sense?
Is it ethically justifiable? How much much suffering is caused by catch & release fishing?

And does stocking a lake or river justify it further?
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Re: Slaughtering and eating cats (NSFW?)

Post by Kristie » Fri Sep 28, 2012 5:39 pm

Robert_S wrote: Is it ethically justifiable? How much much suffering is caused by catch & release fishing?

And does stocking a lake or river justify it further?
That specific thing may not be ethically justifiable to everyone, but you said "a person with any ethical sense worth speaking of". I'm sure there are plenty of sport fishermen that have an otherwise reasonable ethical sense.
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Re: Slaughtering and eating cats (NSFW?)

Post by Robert_S » Fri Sep 28, 2012 5:58 pm

Kristie wrote:
Robert_S wrote: Is it ethically justifiable? How much much suffering is caused by catch & release fishing?

And does stocking a lake or river justify it further?
That specific thing may not be ethically justifiable to everyone, but you said "a person with any ethical sense worth speaking of". I'm sure there are plenty of sport fishermen that have an otherwise reasonable ethical sense.
Probably there are. Actually I'm pretty sure there are.

But a supposedly philosophically minded person whose first contrast between sport fishing and parents hunting down and killing their children is the legal consequences...
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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