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Fucking Catcher in the Rye
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So this is where the fourth wall was broken? This is hip? I found an online PDF because they can't fucking sell the goddamn ebook on Amazon because it might cut sales to every poor fucking high school student forced to read this drek. Fuck.
Oh yeah, and this:
Oh yeah, and this:
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Re: Fucking Catcher in the Rye
I wrote an essay on it a month back. It wasn't so bad.
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I wrote a poem loosely related to it, recently.
It's all right. It's for a teenaged audience, I think. Nothing wrong with that. Unless you're trying to read it for the first time as an adult. Then...
I think there are windows of time for being exposed to certain cultural phenomena. And I think Catcher in the Rye is probably best read by... 25? Around then, if you want to feel it. From then on, nostalgia will blend the experience of reading it so older people can still find it meaningful.
It's all right. It's for a teenaged audience, I think. Nothing wrong with that. Unless you're trying to read it for the first time as an adult. Then...
I think there are windows of time for being exposed to certain cultural phenomena. And I think Catcher in the Rye is probably best read by... 25? Around then, if you want to feel it. From then on, nostalgia will blend the experience of reading it so older people can still find it meaningful.
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Re: Fucking Catcher in the Rye
Catcher in the rye.. that's the one where the big dopey guy kills a little girl and before the lynch mob can get him his best friend shoots him in the head right?
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I loved it. I was 19. You need to be 19. Everyone should be 19 at least once. 
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Frankenstein... no wait... of mice and men...PordFrefect wrote:Catcher in the rye.. that's the one where the big dopey guy kills a little girl and before the lynch mob can get him his best friend shoots him in the head right?
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That book changed my life. It was a goddamn masterpiece.
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They're just waiting their turn.
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Did it make you go out and shoot someone?tattuchu wrote:That book changed my life. It was a goddamn masterpiece.
"What started as a legitimate effort by the townspeople of Salem to identify, capture and kill those who did Satan's bidding quickly deteriorated into a witch hunt" Army Man
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It was lousy with significance for me, but not in that way, noAudley Strange wrote:Did it make you go out and shoot someone?tattuchu wrote:That book changed my life. It was a goddamn masterpiece.
People think "queue" is just "q" followed by 4 silent letters.
But those letters are not silent.
They're just waiting their turn.
But those letters are not silent.
They're just waiting their turn.
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Re: Fucking Catcher in the Rye
Young folk nowadays find it a bit dated. I read it in about 1968-69, when I'd be about 15 or 16, and the assumptions and cultural references needed very little explanation. Nowadays, teenagers find the world of Catcher just about as different from theirs as that of say Jane Austen. Or John Steinbeck, for those on this fred who're still confused. 
But of course it's always nice to see Robert Burns getting a mention - even though Holden got it all wrong.
Other words Burns put to the same tune show typical contempt for authority and specifically for societal disapproval of sex:
"Gin a body meet a body comin through the grain:
Gin a body fuck a body - cunt's a body's ain!"
( - ie, it's nobody's business but your own!)
But of course it's always nice to see Robert Burns getting a mention - even though Holden got it all wrong.
Other words Burns put to the same tune show typical contempt for authority and specifically for societal disapproval of sex:
"Gin a body meet a body comin through the grain:
Gin a body fuck a body - cunt's a body's ain!"
( - ie, it's nobody's business but your own!)
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I got Catcher in the Rye replaced with Stranger in a Strange Land.
I want that on my tombstone.
I want that on my tombstone.
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I don't think I grokked Stranger in a Strange Land.
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Biggest fucking load of shit I ever read in my whole fucking life.
I read it all the ay through. I forced myself, because it's a classic, right? it's got to get better by the end, or maybe right AT the end it all suddenly clicks into place, like "The 6th Sense"? Right?
No.
Fucking load of shite.
I read it all the ay through. I forced myself, because it's a classic, right? it's got to get better by the end, or maybe right AT the end it all suddenly clicks into place, like "The 6th Sense"? Right?
No.
Fucking load of shite.
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Life and literary criticism would be a bit dull if we all agreed on what's a classic.
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No, you got it all wrong there.John_fi_Skye wrote:Life and literary criticism would be a bit dull if we all agreed on what's a classic.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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