Reading Nietzsche

[Lozzer]

I own both The Antrichrist and Beyond good and evil, but I just can't read them. Whether its the old prose or because he has such a broad and sophisticated vocabulary I don't know. I've had allot of trouble in grasping anything in them. How do I learn to read it?

[Rum]

I wouldn't bother Loz. I read both in my 20s and they are the ramblings of a syphilitic crazy person.

Actually they are a bit more than that, but he was right up his own arse. As if all he went on about actually matters.

[Lozzer]

I wouldn't bother Loz. I read both in my 20s and they are the ramblings of a syphilitic crazy person.

Actually they are a bit more than that, but he was right up his own arse. As if all he went on about actually matters.

Yeah but I want a challenge and the posterity.

[Rum]

I wouldn't bother Loz. I read both in my 20s and they are the ramblings of a syphilitic crazy person.

Actually they are a bit more than that, but he was right up his own arse. As if all he went on about actually matters.

Yeah but I want a challenge and the posterity.

I think his stuff is grandiose and overblown. But what he did see was that human beings were liberated when they dropped god as a notion. He does of course go on to talk about the 'superman' and all that crap. Hitler was inspired by his thinking of course - though Nietzsche wasn't exactly a proto Nazi to my way of thinking.

The grandiose ego focused attitude and the outdated language were the hard parts for me. Mind you you may have a newer translation.

[Xamonas Chegwé]

I agree with Rum. Get a book of Nietzschen aphorisms - they were the good bits in any case. Reading his books is like groping through a manure heap for dropped pearls.

[Pappa]

I thought Beyond Good and Evil was a great book. It's been 10 years since I read it, but I remember thinking it had a lot of merit.

[Feck]

I agree with Rum. Get a book of Nietzschen aphorisms - they were the good bits in any case. Reading his books is like groping through a manure heap for dropped pearls.

+1

[SevenOfNine]

Nietzsche had some brilliant insights, but like most philosophers he just goes on and on and on until one suspects he is spanking the pony, or flogging a dead horse.

[Animavore]

Such insubordination.

Nietzsche is the best philosopher ever. He's the only one I ever read who I agree (almost) fully with. The fact that he's egotistical and grandiose is what makes him such a pleasure to read. He's like the gansta rapper of philosophy issuing the smackdown on other philosophers. He can say in one line what others spend a chapter on.
Look at Being and Nothingness by Sartre or Critique of Pure Reason by Kant, hundreds of pages of waffle in what basically could be written in a book 1 third of the size. In fact, I'd recommend skipping both of those books and reading a book about the book instead.
Another thing I liked about Nietzsche was his zero tolerance towards religion and superstition. His contempt of people who search for 'other worlds' instead of living in this one. His pure rubbishing of the ideas. Not many people back then would've done that. Reading Thus Spoke Zarathustra changed my life in this regard. I have never read a book before or since that changed my life in the short amount of time it took to read it (a few hours). I was a Buddhist at the time and also had a messed up life. I truely believed I had been born into this life as a runt of the litter, always pushed around and never achieving anything because of something I did in a previous life and that through baring with it and being good I would come back into the next life as someone special. In other words I was seeking a life beyond myself in order to compensate for my impotence in this one. Nietzsche destroyed that. I ditched Buddhism like a smoking gun after a crime and in a very short space of time dropped any other fantasies that may have been kicking around my head (more woo than white doves, ballistic shoot outs and face offs).
Nietzsche is a powerful writer and the personal trainer of philosophy with the serious motivation.

[Shaker]

Nietzsche is the best philosopher ever. He's the only one I ever read who I agree (almost) fully with. The fact that he's egotistical and grandiose is what makes him such a pleasure to read. He's like the gansta rapper of philosophy issuing the smackdown on other philosophers. He can say in one line what others spend a chapter on.

^ This

[Existentialist1844]

Such insubordination.

Nietzsche is the best philosopher ever. He's the only one I ever read who I agree (almost) fully with. The fact that he's egotistical and grandiose is what makes him such a pleasure to read. He's like the gansta rapper of philosophy issuing the smackdown on other philosophers. He can say in one line what others spend a chapter on.
Look at Being and Nothingness by Sartre or Critique of Pure Reason by Kant, hundreds of pages of waffle in what basically could be written in a book 1 third of the size. In fact, I'd recommend skipping both of those books and reading a book about the book instead.
Another thing I liked about Nietzsche was his zero tolerance towards religion and superstition. His contempt of people who search for 'other worlds' instead of living in this one. His pure rubbishing of the ideas. Not many people back then would've done that. Reading Thus Spoke Zarathustra changed my life in this regard. I have never read a book before or since that changed my life in the short amount of time it took to read it (a few hours). I was a Buddhist at the time and also had a messed up life. I truely believed I had been born into this life as a runt of the litter, always pushed around and never achieving anything because of something I did in a previous life and that through baring with it and being good I would come back into the next life as someone special. In other words I was seeking a life beyond myself in order to compensate for my impotence in this one. Nietzsche destroyed that. I ditched Buddhism like a smoking gun after a crime and in a very short space of time dropped any other fantasies that may have been kicking around my head (more woo than white doves, ballistic shoot outs and face offs).
Nietzsche is a powerful writer and the personal trainer of philosophy with the serious motivation.

+1

[Trolldor]

Really? Nietzsche?

I mean, he's okay, but my four year old cousin is better.
"It's not going to work because it's a stupid idea."