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Re: Aren't I supposed to be depressed?

Post by Svartalf » Sat Jul 14, 2012 10:14 pm

Actually, all of Steinbeck with the exception of travels with Charley, which is kind of droll
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Re: Aren't I supposed to be depressed?

Post by orpheus » Sat Jul 14, 2012 10:49 pm

anna09 wrote:Orwell's 1984 (obviously).

Hans Fallada's Every Man Dies Alone was extremely depressing (I cried at the end).

Joyce's Dubliners wasn't exactly a feel-good collection either. Particularly Eveline and The Dead.

Edit: Also, A Tale of Two Cities.
Ah, The Dead. I'm a big fan of Joyce. The final paragraph of that story is one of the three most beautiful passages I've ever read. (The other two are the last bit of Finnegans Wake and the last paragraph of Calvino's Invisible Cities ).
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Re: Aren't I supposed to be depressed?

Post by orpheus » Sat Jul 14, 2012 10:53 pm

My favorite writer of all is Samuel Beckett. And it's odd; many find work is depressing. I can see why they do. But I don't; not at all. For me there's an incredible sense of life in his work; he's the most realistic writer I know.

For a very sad and beautiful tale, try Le Grand Meaulnes by Alain-Fournier. (Translated into English several times, under both the original title and as The Wanderer ).
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Re: Aren't I supposed to be depressed?

Post by Animavore » Sat Jul 14, 2012 10:53 pm

:tears: Sinne Fianna Fáil....
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Re: Aren't I supposed to be depressed?

Post by Svartalf » Sat Jul 14, 2012 10:59 pm

Animavore wrote::tears: Sinne Fianna Fáil....
I understand the words, but not the reference. Could you enlighten me lé do thoil?
orpheus wrote:My favorite writer of all is Samuel Beckett. And it's odd; many find work is depressing. I can see why they do. But I don't; not at all. For me there's an incredible sense of life in his work; he's the most realistic writer I know.

For a very sad and beautiful tale, try Le Grand Meaulnes by Alain-Fournier. (Translated into English several times, under both the original title and as The Wanderer ).
Indeed, Becket's theater is oddly pleasant...

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Post by Animavore » Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:00 pm

Svartalf wrote:I understand the words, but not the reference. Could you enlighten me lé do thoil?
Start of the Irish National Anthem :hehe:
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Post by FBM » Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:03 pm

Svartalf wrote:...Jean Paul Sartre leaves me with a desire to enter the codes and press the red button.
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Re: Aren't I supposed to be depressed?

Post by Animavore » Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:04 pm

I love Beckett too. In Ireland at the time of his anniversary RTÉ (Ireland's national TV station) broadcast a series of his plays performed by many actors including Michael Gambon and... eh... that's all I remember :shifty:
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Post by Animavore » Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:06 pm

Libertarianism: The belief that out of all the terrible things governments can do, helping people is the absolute worst.

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Post by rachelbean » Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:59 pm

The Painted Bird, by Jerzy Kosinski...I had read Being There and loved it...I really wasn't expecting the rape and sadness that filled the book :cry:
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Post by rachelbean » Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:59 pm

The Painted Bird, by Jerzy Kosinski...I had read Being There and loved it...I really wasn't expecting the rape and sadness that filled the book :cry:
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Re: Aren't I supposed to be depressed?

Post by orpheus » Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:15 am

rachelbean wrote:The Painted Bird, by Jerzy Kosinski...I had read Being There and loved it...I really wasn't expecting the rape and sadness that filled the book :cry:
Yes, I had the same experience.
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Re: Aren't I supposed to be depressed?

Post by rasetsu » Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:42 am




There is a joy in stories and reading and the theatrical arts that exists over and above any mood of the particular story.

I tend to read mostly non-fiction, so I don't have a very broad base to select from. But I cry at movies a lot. Breaking The Waves left me in tears at the end, and would likely fit here if it were a book.



As noted, I'm not well read, so I have little to pick from. Dostoyevsky's Crime And Punishment affected me greatly, and continues to do so. There was also a science fiction novel — perhaps it was Lucifer's Hammer — in which the Earth was being pummeled by massive bodies from space, disrupting oceans and continents, and all the survivors could do upon witnessing another one make landfall was wait for death to come to them. The helplessness experienced there resonated strongly with me.



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Re: Aren't I supposed to be depressed?

Post by hadespussercats » Sun Jul 15, 2012 2:27 am

rasetsu wrote:There is a joy in stories and reading and the theatrical arts that exists over and above any mood of the particular story.

I tend to read mostly non-fiction, so I don't have a very broad base to select from. But I cry at movies a lot. Breaking The Waves left me in tears at the end, and would likely fit here if it were a book.



As noted, I'm not well read, so I have little to pick from. Dostoyevsky's Crime And Punishment affected me greatly, and continues to do so. There was also a science fiction novel — perhaps it was Lucifer's Hammer — in which the Earth was being pummeled by massive bodies from space, disrupting oceans and continents, and all the survivors could do upon witnessing another one make landfall was wait for death to come to them. The helplessness experienced there resonated strongly with me.
Funny-- I was just thinking of Breaking the Waves as a film example of the feelings I had about Geek Love-- a strange, smart story, told with sensitivity and real craftsmanship, but... I never need to see that movie again.

Actually, I feel that way about most of Lars Von Trier's work-- excellent, but I don't know how often I want to watch sweet, borderline psychotic women destroyed by men and sex.
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Re: Aren't I supposed to be depressed?

Post by hadespussercats » Sun Jul 15, 2012 2:29 am

Oh, someone was discussing Shakespeare earlier. King Lear is my favorite, I think. But it is depressing as all hell.
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