All Female "Lord of the Flies" Miffs some Folks
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All Female "Lord of the Flies" Miffs some Folks
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/08 ... int-women/
Issues raised include:
1. Two men wrote the screenplay, featuring an all girl group of stranded kids. That's apparently a problem.
2. Feminists claim that the writers misunderstand the story, which they say was written in the 1950s about "toxic masculinity," and, of course, girls would never act that way...
Seems like an interesting concept, but, of course, they're playing with fire, because if they change the events that occur, and have the girls behaving characteristically different than the boys in the story, then they will without a doubt be accused of stereotyping female behavior. You can do that with men and get away with it, but with women, there will be hell to pay from the feminists. If the girls behave like the boys, then it will be portrayed as making the girls out to be worse, and if the girls are made to behave differently than the boys in the story, then they'll be accused of stereoptyping girlish behavior and especially girlish bad behavior.
Then, of course, there will be the complaints from the trans folks, who will point out that just because the girls are "assigned at birth because of their genitals" that doesn't make them girls, so some of the girls in the story may well be boys, or nonbinary, even though they all have vaginas.
They'll probably make money just from the uproar, so it's probably a good business move.
Issues raised include:
1. Two men wrote the screenplay, featuring an all girl group of stranded kids. That's apparently a problem.
2. Feminists claim that the writers misunderstand the story, which they say was written in the 1950s about "toxic masculinity," and, of course, girls would never act that way...
Seems like an interesting concept, but, of course, they're playing with fire, because if they change the events that occur, and have the girls behaving characteristically different than the boys in the story, then they will without a doubt be accused of stereotyping female behavior. You can do that with men and get away with it, but with women, there will be hell to pay from the feminists. If the girls behave like the boys, then it will be portrayed as making the girls out to be worse, and if the girls are made to behave differently than the boys in the story, then they'll be accused of stereoptyping girlish behavior and especially girlish bad behavior.
Then, of course, there will be the complaints from the trans folks, who will point out that just because the girls are "assigned at birth because of their genitals" that doesn't make them girls, so some of the girls in the story may well be boys, or nonbinary, even though they all have vaginas.
They'll probably make money just from the uproar, so it's probably a good business move.
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My only irritation is that it is being called "Lord of the Flies" when it has only a tenuous and artistically inauthentic connection to the original book.
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I don't care what gender they are as long as they KILLTHEPIG!
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.
Re: All Female "Lord of the Flies" Miffs some Folks
The average woman is far more aggressive than the average man.
For instance, Susie on Curb Your Enthusiasm.
For instance, Susie on Curb Your Enthusiasm.
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The main danger would occur after they hit puberty, and the periods started to synch...
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Ah, it's that common female problem of disassociating fantasy and reality. My ex-wife used to use sitcoms as proof that she was right about something. I don't know what, I didn't listen lol
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Once again the American are going to knacker the story again.
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Sitcoms suffice to prove you wrong every time. In fact, they're ideal. Pitched at a lowenough level for you to comprehend something - if only you were listening.Tyrannical wrote:My ex-wife used to use sitcoms as proof that she was right about something. I don't know what, I didn't listen lol
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Ever watched sitcoms in different languages. English is one of the worst. In Dutch they sound almost normal. In German quite formal. In Spanish it is listening to machine guns firing the whole time.
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There's quite a number of studies that have shown changing a woman's name for a man's name on the same job application results in greater interviews for the male applications. Probably fake news.Tyrannical wrote:Ah, it's that common female problem of disassociating fantasy and reality. My ex-wife used to use sitcoms as proof that she was right about something. I don't know what, I didn't listen lol
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Scot Dutchy wrote:Ever watched sitcoms in different languages. English is one of the worst. In Dutch they sound almost normal. In German quite formal. In Spanish it is listening to machine guns firing the whole time.
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"Socialized medicine is just exactly as morally defensible as gassing and cooking Jews" - Seth. Yes, he really did say that..
"Seth you are a boon to this community" - Cunt.
"I am seriously thinking of going on a spree killing" - Svartalf.
"The Western world is fucking awesome because of mostly white men" - DaveDodo007.
"Socialized medicine is just exactly as morally defensible as gassing and cooking Jews" - Seth. Yes, he really did say that..
"Seth you are a boon to this community" - Cunt.
"I am seriously thinking of going on a spree killing" - Svartalf.
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This is a fucking news story? Some women Tweeted?
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This.
This is what keeps right-wingers up at night. Not Nazis. Not Christians trying to destroy civil rights. Not a brutal shift of wealth to the top one percent. Not environmental destruction. Or collapse of species. Or massive property damage and civilian casualty due to climate change. Not a corrupt and incompetent White House. Not 22 million people thrown off health insurance.
This.
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