Dunkirk: History is racist!
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If you make a film about an event it must be accurate. Dont you agree. It does not stop it from being a good film in itself.
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This guy who was at Dunkirk had no problem with it.
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I didn't think it was existentially possible, but you're beating a dead horse to death.
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Sure, but to what degree and what extent?Scot Dutchy wrote:If you make a film about an event it must be accurate. Dont you agree. It does not stop it from being a good film in itself.
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No I am not. You are pushing that this film is accurate.Animavore wrote:This guy who was at Dunkirk had no problem with it.
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What ‘Dunkirk’ gets wrong – according to a World War Two historian
He is an historian not a film critic.
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Accuracy doesn't define worth. Man you come out with some stupid shit.Scot Dutchy wrote:It is not accurate. It is just a film of no worth.Animavore wrote:No. You're not getting the last word in.Scot Dutchy wrote:A film can be good but a film like Dunkirk has to be accurate which it not.
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If the film were meant to be a documentary or a re-enactment of a historical event, I'd agree with you. Christopher Nolan did not set out do produce either. He told Simon Mayo that he wanted to create a suspense-driven story based on people confronted by a physical dilemma (surrender or be annihilated) and how they dealt with it. You need to base your judgement of the film's worth on that instead of your idée fixe concerning what a film about Dunkirk ought to look like in terms of style, content and structure.Scot Dutchy wrote:It is not accurate. It is just a film of no worth.Animavore wrote:No. You're not getting the last word in.Scot Dutchy wrote:A film can be good but a film like Dunkirk has to be accurate which it not.
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It is just a film and if it gets an Oscar well good luck to it. I will just watch the documentary.
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You do that.
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Scot Dutchy wrote:It is just a film and if it gets an Oscar well good luck to it. I will just watch the documentary.
..documentaries are always written by the winners though so there goes yer objective truth innit?
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And if the film were going to be totally accurate is would be 10 days long and have a cast of 350,000!
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A cast of genetic clones taken from the exhumed corpses of the actual people involved.Brian Peacock wrote:And if the film were going to be totally accurate is would be 10 days long and have a cast of 350,000!
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Did Britain win at Dunkirk? Did not think they did.Rum wrote:Scot Dutchy wrote:It is just a film and if it gets an Oscar well good luck to it. I will just watch the documentary.
..documentaries are always written by the winners though so there goes yer objective truth innit?
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Since we know that the 1930s and 40s were orders of magnitude more patriarchal, homophobic, transphobic, sexist and racist than the world is today, it is obvious that the reason that there were fewer women, gays, trans, people of color, etc., at Dunkirk is because of the "glass ceiling" that prevented them from serving in the British and French militaries at the time, except in largely limited roles at best. So, the reason there were so few non CIS non-white non-male characters is because of sexism, racism, phobia, etc. As such, the movie should not have been made, and instead, a movie about non-western military events should have been made in its stead. It's just a testament to the continued bias in media and Hollywood, that we have yet another movie about western military issues.
The question shouldn't be "why are there so few women stabbing Krauts with bayonets, and so few transsexual Africans in leadership roles?" The question is, "why are we so many films being made about white/cis/male historical events, and so few about the historical contributions of marginalized peoples?" It's oppression through and through!
The question shouldn't be "why are there so few women stabbing Krauts with bayonets, and so few transsexual Africans in leadership roles?" The question is, "why are we so many films being made about white/cis/male historical events, and so few about the historical contributions of marginalized peoples?" It's oppression through and through!
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See above. 2/3 of the French soldiers in France at the time were actually Non-Europeans...
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Scot Dutchy's ability to hold forth on things he hasn't actually seen really is second to none.Scot Dutchy wrote:It is not accurate. It is just a film of no worth.Animavore wrote:No. You're not getting the last word in.Scot Dutchy wrote:A film can be good but a film like Dunkirk has to be accurate which it not.
You're wrong.
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