Union Bosses
Union Bosses
Why are worker union bosses always the bad guys in American television films and series?
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Because traditionally US Unions were often an extension of, and cover for, organised crime.
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Because they were owned by organized crime !
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It is a capitalist conspiracy to make unions look evil!
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Because they're socialists.
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I tend to agree, even the asociation with the maffia is part of the conspirationJimC wrote:It is a capitalist conspiracy to make unions look evil!
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American Labour generally is treated as corrupt in the media in my view. If you think of the dockers in the Wire for example, or numerous movies set in working class unionised communities a picture of nepotism, corruption and shady dealing is nearly always presented.
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Unions hardly ever make appearances in German television. They are seen as boring bureaucrats. No one would ever think of them being interesting enough to making them part of some story.
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Right on cue here in Oz... today the head of the CFMEU (construction forestry manufacturing and something or other union) has threatened government building site inspectors by saying "When we come after you, you'd better be careful", among other things. He's a very thuggy angry looking man.
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Organized crime. The mafia.NineBerry wrote:Why are worker union bosses always the bad guys in American television films and series?
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Well, nepotism, corruption and shady dealing is common in unions.Rum wrote:American Labour generally is treated as corrupt in the media in my view. If you think of the dockers in the Wire for example, or numerous movies set in working class unionised communities a picture of nepotism, corruption and shady dealing is nearly always presented.
A lot of Merkins don't like unions because of the way unions often work, which sometimes seems illogical and inefficient. The "not my job" mentality. Or, the mentality that a machine can't get fixed because we have to wait for the correct union guy. Or, union workers in job X standing idle because the jobs that at the time need doing have to be done by workers in job Y, even though the job X guys can do job Y too.
Unions have their benefits, but they are not all wine and roses. To fail to acknowledge their deficiencies is to fail to recognize reality.
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John Setka, and yes, he and his mates are thugs, it's a rather problematic union...pErvin wrote:Right on cue here in Oz... today the head of the CFMEU (construction forestry manufacturing and something or other union) has threatened government building site inspectors by saying "When we come after you, you'd better be careful", among other things. He's a very thuggy angry looking man.
And I say that as a union member, and someone who firmly believes that unions are a necessary counterpoint to the power of employers. But, as 42 said, there are also opportunities for corruption and the abuse of power, particularly in unions with serious industrial muscle, in that their strike actions, for example, can have major effects. The other point (which applies equally to CEOs and politicians) is that the people who are successful in rising to positions of power often have all the moral qualities of a rabid weasel...
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