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Post by Existentialist1844 » Thu Jul 09, 2009 2:11 am

current horror movies suck? :lay: They all have the same fucking plot and characters.

They all contain:

1) two young adults (male and female) between the ages of 17-25.

2) a ghost

3) trying to solve some mysterious puzzle related to the ghost.

4) if male and female are just friends, they always wind up hooking up in the end.

5) separated parents.

What happened to GOOD horror? :nono:
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Post by cowiz » Thu Jul 09, 2009 2:27 am

I'd have gotten away with it too if it wasn't for you pesky kids
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Existentialist1844 wrote:current horror movies suck? :lay: They all have the same fucking plot and characters.

They all contain:

1) two young adults (male and female) between the ages of 17-25.

2) a ghost

3) trying to solve some mysterious puzzle related to the ghost.

4) if male and female are just friends, they always wind up hooking up in the end.

5) separated parents.

What happened to GOOD horror? :nono:
What's an example of a GOOD horror movie in your opinion? Alien or...??
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Post by Existentialist1844 » Thu Jul 09, 2009 3:01 am

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Existentialist1844 wrote:current horror movies suck? :lay: They all have the same fucking plot and characters.

They all contain:

1) two young adults (male and female) between the ages of 17-25.

2) a ghost

3) trying to solve some mysterious puzzle related to the ghost.

4) if male and female are just friends, they always wind up hooking up in the end.

5) separated parents.

What happened to GOOD horror? :nono:
What's an example of a GOOD horror movie in your opinion? Alien or...??
I really enjoyed Poltergeist. Although it was about ghosts, it had a different feel to it. The original Friday the 13th's were classic. I mean, every horror (to a certain extent) movie will have some of the above characters and plot in it, but its how its done that matters. All the horror movies today are EXACTLY the same. I also enjoyed The Exorcist, Night of the Living Dead and Rosemary's baby.
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Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Thu Jul 09, 2009 3:09 am

The thing that fucked up horror films is the same thing that fucked up Hollywood in general. An unwillingness to take risks.

The two classic eras of horror were the 1920's - prior to the dominance of the studio system - and the 1970's - after its demise and before it reestablished itself.

The basic problem is one of economics v aesthetics.

A film that has a happy ending will make shitloads of money at the box-office but will be seen as lightweight and will be largely ignored by future generations.
A film that has a bleak, ambiguous, or daring ending will garner critical acclaim but less bums on seats in its opening month.

This is independent of how good the script / performances / effects are. And guess which the studios go for. Meh.

No studio would make Rosemary's baby or The Exorcist today - well they would, but they would bolt on an upbeat ending (or at best, an upbeat ending with a tiny coda hinting at a sequel.) Formula is king - cos formula is safe. McG rules Hollywood. :nono:

Most of the best films, of any genre, these days don't come out of Hollywood. They are produced independently or in other countries. There are decent films out there. Pan's Labyrinth is comparable for shocks with anything I have ever seen - mostly the non-fantasy sections. The asian market has produced some great horror - Ring, Eye, Grudge - which have been lamely remade in tinseltown.
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Post by FBM » Thu Jul 09, 2009 3:15 am

Existentialist1844 wrote:I really enjoyed Poltergeist. Although it was about ghosts, it had a different feel to it. The original Friday the 13th's were classic. I mean, every horror (to a certain extent) movie will have some of the above characters and plot in it, but its how its done that matters. All the horror movies today are EXACTLY the same. I also enjoyed The Exorcist, Night of the Living Dead and Rosemary's baby.
Night of the Living Dead. Wow. Haven't thought about that one in decades. It just about made me wet myself when I was a kid.

You're right. Horror movies these days are too formulaic, but then, so is 99% of everything coming out these days. I mostly enjoy movies that are challenging, loaded with plot twists and so forth, like Memento, Butterfly Effect, The Machinist...etc. But I usually settle for explosions and bloodshed.
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Post by Pappa » Thu Jul 09, 2009 9:10 am

Existentialist1844 wrote:current horror movies suck?
They don't. Just all the ones made in the US by big studios do.

If you want to be scared shitless, check out some Japanese horror.
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Post by Clinton Huxley » Thu Jul 09, 2009 11:31 am

Rec, the Spanish horror film, was ok
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu Jul 09, 2009 11:46 am

"13 Ghosts" was cool. Brightly lit for a change.

Fuck a bunch of zombie movies, btw.
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Post by Existentialist1844 » Thu Jul 09, 2009 2:00 pm

Pappa wrote:
Existentialist1844 wrote:current horror movies suck?
They don't. Just all the ones made in the US by big studios do.

If you want to be scared shitless, check out some Japanese horror.
Meh, Ive seen some Japanese horror. Not impressed.
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Existentialist1844 wrote:
Pappa wrote:
Existentialist1844 wrote:current horror movies suck?
They don't. Just all the ones made in the US by big studios do.

If you want to be scared shitless, check out some Japanese horror.
Meh, Ive seen some Japanese horror. Not impressed.
Like what?

The original version of the Eye is pretty spooky.
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Post by Bella Fortuna » Thu Jul 09, 2009 2:10 pm

I liked The Haunting (the original 1963 one). No blood, no gore... but immensely atmospheric and unsettling. It's amazing to see in a theater.

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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu Jul 09, 2009 2:15 pm

Bella Fortuna wrote:I liked The Haunting (the original 1963 one). No blood, no gore... but immensely atmospheric and unsettling. It's amazing to see in a theater.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057129/
I liked that one too. ONE scene with special effects, the rest was mental.
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Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Thu Jul 09, 2009 3:25 pm

Pappa wrote:
Existentialist1844 wrote:
Pappa wrote:
Existentialist1844 wrote:current horror movies suck?
They don't. Just all the ones made in the US by big studios do.

If you want to be scared shitless, check out some Japanese horror.
Meh, Ive seen some Japanese horror. Not impressed.
Like what?

The original version of the Eye is pretty spooky.
:whisper: Not to mention Chinese. but it is good.
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