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Re: Who is the best actor and actress, presently?

Post by hadespussercats » Mon Jan 21, 2013 3:09 pm

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rEvolutionist wrote:Yeah, I like actors that push the limits, but most importantly - pull it off! And Charlize definitely does that. And, as much as people are might hate me for this, so too does Russel Crowe. Now, I'm Australian, so I am more than aware of what a wanker Russel is in real life. But his acting really is good in my opinion. I first saw him in an australian neo-nazi film called Romper Stomper. I would highly recommend it to those who like challenging cinema.

edit: oh fuck yeah, Emma Thompson is brilliant too!
I still would like to see Les Mis at some point. I'm curious what sort of Javert he made.

I enjoyed Gladiator. I'm trying to think which if his movies I've actually seen. I missed the boxing one...
Russell Crowe is good. The boxing one is Cinderella Man, and it is excellent. He is kind of a wanker, though. I don't like it when actors pretend to be all out-of-place and confused at awards shows. We all know they are just acting there too, trying to seem all "deep" and "above it all" at the same time. I saw Crowe do that at an awards show -- pretended to be all confused as to what to do on stage and was like pretending to try to see the audience by putting his hand over his eyes like a visor. LOL. Douche.
Anne Hathaway is like that, too. "blergh."

There are a lot of actors who are like that, though. I think they became actors because they don't know how to be, so they act all the time. Even when they're supposedly "themselves."
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Re: Who is the best actor and actress, presently?

Post by hadespussercats » Mon Jan 21, 2013 3:10 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
orpheus wrote:Best actor... you mean besides Max von Sydow?
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I like Max von Sydow. The best role I saw him in was in Three Days of the Condor with Robert Redford. Max plays the hired assassin. And, there is that early movie of his from Sweden where Max encounters the grim reaper. I can't remember much of it, but I watched it ages ago.
Isn't he dead, though? (i.e.-- not "present" ...ly?)

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Re: Who is the best actor and actress, presently?

Post by Coito ergo sum » Mon Jan 21, 2013 3:44 pm

Nope, still breathing. But, hardly "current," as 93 years old, and I don't think he's done anything that can be described as particularly "current." Actually, no -- on investigation, he was nominated for an Oscar in 2012, so, I guess he must be included as fairly current.

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hadespussercats wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
hadespussercats wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:Yeah, I like actors that push the limits, but most importantly - pull it off! And Charlize definitely does that. And, as much as people are might hate me for this, so too does Russel Crowe. Now, I'm Australian, so I am more than aware of what a wanker Russel is in real life. But his acting really is good in my opinion. I first saw him in an australian neo-nazi film called Romper Stomper. I would highly recommend it to those who like challenging cinema.

edit: oh fuck yeah, Emma Thompson is brilliant too!
I still would like to see Les Mis at some point. I'm curious what sort of Javert he made.

I enjoyed Gladiator. I'm trying to think which if his movies I've actually seen. I missed the boxing one...
Russell Crowe is good. The boxing one is Cinderella Man, and it is excellent. He is kind of a wanker, though. I don't like it when actors pretend to be all out-of-place and confused at awards shows. We all know they are just acting there too, trying to seem all "deep" and "above it all" at the same time. I saw Crowe do that at an awards show -- pretended to be all confused as to what to do on stage and was like pretending to try to see the audience by putting his hand over his eyes like a visor. LOL. Douche.
Anne Hathaway is like that, too. "blergh."

There are a lot of actors who are like that, though. I think they became actors because they don't know how to be, so they act all the time. Even when they're supposedly "themselves."
Hehehe. I recall the phrase I heard years ago, "in acting, one must not act, one must be." Which brings us to the questions of essential selves. I once heard Robert De Niro was a pretty quiet and boring person from someone who was working with him. I couldn't believe it considering the dedication he brought to his art I thought he'd have some excellent anecdotes.
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Re: Who is the best actor and actress, presently?

Post by hadespussercats » Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:29 pm

Audley Strange wrote:
hadespussercats wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
hadespussercats wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:Yeah, I like actors that push the limits, but most importantly - pull it off! And Charlize definitely does that. And, as much as people are might hate me for this, so too does Russel Crowe. Now, I'm Australian, so I am more than aware of what a wanker Russel is in real life. But his acting really is good in my opinion. I first saw him in an australian neo-nazi film called Romper Stomper. I would highly recommend it to those who like challenging cinema.

edit: oh fuck yeah, Emma Thompson is brilliant too!
I still would like to see Les Mis at some point. I'm curious what sort of Javert he made.

I enjoyed Gladiator. I'm trying to think which if his movies I've actually seen. I missed the boxing one...
Russell Crowe is good. The boxing one is Cinderella Man, and it is excellent. He is kind of a wanker, though. I don't like it when actors pretend to be all out-of-place and confused at awards shows. We all know they are just acting there too, trying to seem all "deep" and "above it all" at the same time. I saw Crowe do that at an awards show -- pretended to be all confused as to what to do on stage and was like pretending to try to see the audience by putting his hand over his eyes like a visor. LOL. Douche.
Anne Hathaway is like that, too. "blergh."

There are a lot of actors who are like that, though. I think they became actors because they don't know how to be, so they act all the time. Even when they're supposedly "themselves."
Hehehe. I recall the phrase I heard years ago, "in acting, one must not act, one must be." Which brings us to the questions of essential selves. I once heard Robert De Niro was a pretty quiet and boring person from someone who was working with him. I couldn't believe it considering the dedication he brought to his art I thought he'd have some excellent anecdotes.
Yeah. And Anthony Hopkins, in interviews and such, is a real disappointment. Not that interesting, and not even that smart, so far as I could tell. I guess he needs a text to work from to be his best self.
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Re: Who is the best actor and actress, presently?

Post by pErvinalia » Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:29 am

Coito ergo sum wrote:
hadespussercats wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:Yeah, I like actors that push the limits, but most importantly - pull it off! And Charlize definitely does that. And, as much as people are might hate me for this, so too does Russel Crowe. Now, I'm Australian, so I am more than aware of what a wanker Russel is in real life. But his acting really is good in my opinion. I first saw him in an australian neo-nazi film called Romper Stomper. I would highly recommend it to those who like challenging cinema.

edit: oh fuck yeah, Emma Thompson is brilliant too!
I still would like to see Les Mis at some point. I'm curious what sort of Javert he made.

I enjoyed Gladiator. I'm trying to think which if his movies I've actually seen. I missed the boxing one...
Russell Crowe is good. The boxing one is Cinderella Man, and it is excellent. He is kind of a wanker, though. I don't like it when actors pretend to be all out-of-place and confused at awards shows. We all know they are just acting there too, trying to seem all "deep" and "above it all" at the same time. I saw Crowe do that at an awards show -- pretended to be all confused as to what to do on stage and was like pretending to try to see the audience by putting his hand over his eyes like a visor. LOL. Douche.

Gladiator was entertaining, but it failed for me for the same reason many historical movies fail. They fuck up the history. I don't mind poetic license used to improve the story, but sometimes the actual history is even more exciting and entertaining than the trite, Hollywood rewrite. I mean, they turned Commodus into a Caligula-like guy who wanted to fuck his sister and who Aurelius wanted to disinherit, and Marcus Aurelius was suddenly an Emperor whose only wish was to restore the Republic, but for the evil forces that he could not master. Total nonsense. Commodos didn't try to kill Marcus. And, even stupid little details -- like, why couldn't they be accurate about the battle scenes? I mean -- cavalry riding with stirrups, and seige engines used in an open field and forest battles? It's like they didn't even try.
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Re: Who is the best actor and actress, presently?

Post by orpheus » Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:24 am

Coito ergo sum wrote:
orpheus wrote:Best actor... you mean besides Max von Sydow?
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I like Max von Sydow. The best role I saw him in was in Three Days of the Condor with Robert Redford. Max plays the hired assassin.
That was a really good movie. Seriously underrated. Hell of a cast, too, for a conspiracy/detective/thriller: in addition to von Sydow & Redford it had Faye Dunaway, Cliff Robertson, and even John Houseman.
And, there is that early movie of his from Sweden where Max encounters the grim reaper. I can't remember much of it, but I watched it ages ago.
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Post by hadespussercats » Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:41 am

orpheus wrote: Ah yes...

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Very possibly the best film ever made.
I've seen photos of you, so I can't really explain why, but he looks like you in that shot.
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Post by SteveB » Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:52 am

He also looks like Rutger Hauer.

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Post by Jason » Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:54 am

Good movie, but I don't recall the acting being particularly remarkable.

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Nibbler wrote:He also looks like Rutger Hauer.

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hadespussercats wrote:
Nibbler wrote:He also looks like Rutger Hauer.

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Ah. Rutger Hauer.

I can't explain the hold Aryan-looking men have on me...
What ethnicity-thingie are you? :eddy:
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Post by SteveB » Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:56 am

Thought all the Nazis went to Argentina, not Australia. Based on that alone, I don't believe you. :nazi:
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Post by hadespussercats » Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:00 am

rEvolutionist wrote:Nazi.
Naw. I just like how they look.

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