The Hobbit will be Three Films, not Two

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Re: The Hobbit will be Three Films, not Two

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Dec 15, 2012 1:43 pm

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Re: The Hobbit will be Three Films, not Two

Post by MiM » Sat Dec 15, 2012 1:50 pm

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:The 2nd and 3rd movies will be largely taken from the appendices. This means I might have to read them. :coffee:
Well, there's a lot of the Hobbit still untold after the first one.

I do hope they are going to get more background material into the two sequels, because if there is one ting I found lacking in this first part it was story. Otherwise I loved the movie for giving lots of time to slow scenes that built up ambience, the action scenes where quite over the top, as was expected.

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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Dec 15, 2012 1:51 pm

Jackson pulled a lot of material from the appendices to bridge the gap between The Hobbit and LOTR. For me, this will be new material. :pop:
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Gawdzilla Sama wrote:The 2nd and 3rd movies will be largely taken from the appendices. This means I might have to read them. :coffee:
Appendices? you mean, LotR's?
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Gawdzilla Sama wrote:The 2nd and 3rd movies will be largely taken from the appendices. This means I might have to read them. :coffee:
Appendices? you mean, LotR's?
Didn't know The Hobbit had any. :dunno:
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Re: The Hobbit will be Three Films, not Two

Post by MiM » Sat Dec 15, 2012 1:58 pm

You mean you never studied the appendixes :shock:
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Re: The Hobbit will be Three Films, not Two

Post by tattuchu » Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:00 pm

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The Hobbit will be far worse.
That was really funny :funny:

I thought the LOTR films were visually stunning, but boring and rather silly. Also, and most importantly, I felt no emotional investment in them. I didn't care about the characters.* Still, that having been said, I do want to see the Hobbit. There will be visual spectacle if nothing else. So why not.

*For instance, the "You shall not pass!" scene left me cold. It should have been a very powerful scene, sending shivers up my spine. And yet I felt absolutely nothing. And I was really annoyed with Gandalf throughout the entire series of films in that, for a fucking wizard, he never seemed to do anything particularly, you know, wizardy.
Compare to the scene in which Dobby the house elf protects Harry against Lucius Malfoy, his former master. "You shall not harm Harry Potter!" I cried watching this scene. I really cried. And, god help me, I'm tearing up right now just thinking about it. And I'm not even kidding. "Harry Potter has given Dobby...a sock." Jesus Christ I need to get a Kleenex because I'm blubbering now...
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Re: The Hobbit will be Three Films, not Two

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Gawdzilla Sama wrote:The 2nd and 3rd movies will be largely taken from the appendices. This means I might have to read them. :coffee:
Appendices? you mean, LotR's?
Didn't know The Hobbit had any. :dunno:
Precisely... damn, those movies are supposed to be the Damn Hobbit, not some mish mash of whatever's handy... I'll have to impale the scriptwriter, at least...
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MiM wrote:You mean you never studied the appendixes :shock:
Not in the past forty-two years, no.
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Re: The Hobbit will be Three Films, not Two

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Svartalf wrote:
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Gawdzilla Sama wrote:The 2nd and 3rd movies will be largely taken from the appendices. This means I might have to read them. :coffee:
Appendices? you mean, LotR's?
Didn't know The Hobbit had any. :dunno:
Precisely... damn, those movies are supposed to be the Damn Hobbit, not some mish mash of whatever's handy... I'll have to impale the scriptwriter, at least...
Bridging, like I said.
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Re: The Hobbit will be Three Films, not Two

Post by Svartalf » Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:13 pm

MiM wrote:You mean you never studied the appendixes :shock:
even I didn't study them too deeply, beside the languages one that tickled my own interests... and that very late compared to my study of Tolkien, as I had to wait till I bought it in English, my French edition simply didn't include them.
(I had to reconstitute the text of Balin's tombstone from knowing what words would be there and using 'Balin' as a key, because I didn't have the damn Certar table )
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:15 pm

Reading the appendices is like reading the bibliographical notes in an overly scholarly book.
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Re: The Hobbit will be Three Films, not Two

Post by Svartalf » Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:17 pm

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Reading the appendices is like reading the bibliographical notes in an overly scholarly book.
Not in LotR... there, the appendices ARE the scholarly book, the stuff JRRT wanted to include but that didn't fit in an epic narrative, or that were useful to understand the background and characters and cultures.
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Re: The Hobbit will be Three Films, not Two

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:19 pm

Svartalf wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Reading the appendices is like reading the bibliographical notes in an overly scholarly book.
Not in LotR... there, the appendices ARE the scholarly book, the stuff JRRT wanted to include but that didn't fit in an epic narrative, or that were useful to understand the background and characters and cultures.
Still boring.
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Re: The Hobbit will be Three Films, not Two

Post by Svartalf » Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:23 pm

Disagreement, strongly worded, hah!.
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