Did you have to become an atheist?
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Re: Did you have to become an atheist?
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Re: Did you have to become an atheist?
Yes.
Richard Dawkins told me that, for every day that I did not become one, he would disembowel a kitten.
Richard Dawkins told me that, for every day that I did not become one, he would disembowel a kitten.
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Re: Did you have to become an atheist?
Although my parents were non practicing, I was indoctrinated from a very young age. I never practiced much, though I'd do the socially expected things (except fish on fridays, my mom did not force that on me)... I was 21 or so when I made a detailed study of new testament, and really understood that crhistianity was a buch of absurdity piled on top of a mountain of nonsense. This, combined with a bit of reality check (how do you conciliate a good and loving god with tha evil and pain that fill the world) finished turning me away from that idiocy.
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I don't believe in Atheism, as there is no convincing proof that there are no Gods.Hermit wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 4:09 amThe trend in Australia:
The census data don't distinguish between people who have simply disengaged from religious institutions, people who have ceased believing in a personal god and people who have ceased believing in the existence of supernatural entities altogether.
The next census will be taken in September this year. Results will be published 10 or 12 months later.
I do suspect that the early censuses didn't give an easy option for no religion.
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That's not what atheism is. It's a lack of belief. Not proof of anything.
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Re: Did you have to become an atheist?
Although I have mentioned the concept of agnostic atheism dozens of times, it seems to have escaped you. A few posts above this one I have described myself as an agnostic atheist. Here is why:rainbow wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 10:15 amI don't believe in Atheism, as there is no convincing proof that there are no Gods.Hermit wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 4:09 amThe trend in Australia:
The census data don't distinguish between people who have simply disengaged from religious institutions, people who have ceased believing in a personal god and people who have ceased believing in the existence of supernatural entities altogether.
The next census will be taken in September this year. Results will be published 10 or 12 months later.
If you are correct, the option for no religion would have remained close to non-existent for 65 years, after which it became progressively easier to choose.
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My dad is Jewish. My mum was confirmed in the Anglican church, though her father was Catholic. Having long abandoned any faith whatsoever, they raised us as atheists.
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Yes, I lack the belief that there are no Gods.pErvinalia wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 10:24 amThat's not what atheism is. It's a lack of belief. Not proof of anything.
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People might actually believe that they will be judged for stating 'no religion'.
On your table, I'd like to add a third dimension. That would be the zeal of wanting to convince others.
...the evangelical, or missionary motivation. How much time does one spend on trying to convert others to your way of thinking.
My guess is that even amongst those that claim a religion, a small minority practise or actually become involved in the Coven.
...so my actual standpoint is a non-toss-giving, agnostic Deist.
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Yeah, the zeal thing is an important dimension. Not only for theists, either - Richard Dawkins would score pretty highly on that, one thinks...
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well yes, but it was funny.
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The Wendy one is missing the funniest bit where he adds an ancestor to our sequence and she says he just made two new gaps.
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Re: Did you have to become an atheist?
That would have been one huge factor in the almost non-existence of people stating 'no religion' until the mid 1960s, and to a smaller extent it is still around.
Um, yes, I am personally familiar with evangelical, or missionary motivation. My brother, his wife and one of their children are evangelising young earth christians. I don't know how I would incorporate that into the four-cornered diagram, though.
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Better fit for the bottom left corner then, than the bottom right?
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Re: Did you have to become an atheist?
So you are an agnostic atheist, assuming you also lack a belief that there are Gods.rainbow wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 12:24 pmYes, I lack the belief that there are no Gods.pErvinalia wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 10:24 amThat's not what atheism is. It's a lack of belief. Not proof of anything.
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I guess I'm a cynical agnostic. I don't know, neither do you, and it sounds like a scam.
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