Scientific Proof Of God

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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by Forty Two » Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:58 pm

Yes yes yes, of course. However, the Book of Genesis was written like from the 6th to 10th centuries BC range, and almost certainly was based on even older traditional writings, which themselves probably originated from word of mouth tales that are rather archetypal in nature. These are people who didn't have the benefit of science, and they lived in a world that seemed infinitely vast. The land was below, and the waters surrounded the land, and the heavens were a dome above us. If you purposefully forget the science we've been taught, you can look up on dark night into the sky and see what they saw - imagine yourself never having traveled far from your place of birth, having to go everywhere on foot or by donkey/camel, having no reason to think the stars and the sun are similar things, and having no way of understanding what the planet were and why they moved and the "other stars" didn't, etc. The story makes sense when viewed in that light. It's not as if the people then were stupider than us and just didn't see what is so obvious to us. What's obvious to us now is not obvious.

Think of life back then. An old man is the center of attention when the sun is down, and very little can be done work-wise. The fires are lit. People are eating and sleeping. Storytelling, singing and dancing is all they have - there is no entertainment of the sort we are accustomed to. Everything was stories. Legends of ones grandfathers and the old man heard stories when he was a kid that related to events a generation or two or three earlier than that - seemingly, to a younger person at the time, descending back into the unimaginable depths of time. Viewed in that light, it's even easy to see how people thought it obvious then that long ago people lived a long long long time, and people were wiser back then, and the heroes of old were braver then, and back then there were giants in the Earth.... etc etc etc.

Make no mistake, if any of us were born then, it is really not very likely that we would do anything other than believe those stories too. The ones we learned growing up. Were we raised in the Viking long house, the story of the Allfather creating the world out of the blood, teeth, bones and flesh of a giant - stories of Yggdrasil the World Tree, and Jormungandr the world serpent, and Thor making the thunder and lightning and the rainbow bridge would all make perfect sense. They make perfect sense because at the time, with the information people had available to them, it explained the situation.

Isaac Asimov wrote a great piece called "The Relativity of Wrong," which explains how the idea that the earth was flat was "nearly right." Same concept. Based on the information at the time, the explanation fit. Sure, it doesn't fit today, because we know more. But, 2000 years ago, looking around us, we might think the earth was flat. It looks flat. And, the idea that we're on a ball and can be 'upside down' and not fall off is rather counter-intuitive. It requires different thinking - different premises.
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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by Jason » Mon Jan 28, 2019 10:32 pm

So long as we all understand that they are the product of a primitive culture from the bronze age and not the inspired truth as dictated by God I'm happy.

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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by superuniverse » Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:35 pm

THE TYPICAL ATHEIST STRAWMAN ARGUMENT:



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It was only a question of time before this crap would trigger full-scale divine retaliation.

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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by JimC » Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:46 pm

Well I haven't been struck by lightning yet...

I'd say "fuck off god", except that it seems pointless castigating the non-existent... :tea:
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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by Svartalf » Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:01 pm

so fuck off with the imaginary sky friend botherers.
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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by Seabass » Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:52 pm

superuniverse wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:35 pm
THE TYPICAL ATHEIST STRAWMAN ARGUMENT:
"Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." —Voltaire
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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by rainbow » Thu Jan 31, 2019 9:24 am

superuniverse wrote:
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It was only a question of time before this crap would trigger full-scale divine retaliation.
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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Jan 31, 2019 9:32 am

Christ! What a racket!
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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by rainbow » Thu Jan 31, 2019 10:30 am

Brian Peacock wrote:
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Christ! What a racket!
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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Jan 31, 2019 11:35 am

My remark was a comment on religion, not music. :whistle:
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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by Alan B » Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:02 pm

Agreed. A bloody racket.

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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by Svartalf » Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:20 pm

it's not a racket until they cast you out for not donating your money.

then again, there are churches that demand a tithe, and those are indeed qworthiy of being called racketeers.
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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by superuniverse » Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:23 am

Perhaps the most moronic group of humans in the entire history of the earth.



Time to call GHOSTBUSTERS!

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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by Seabass » Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:38 am

superuniverse wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:23 am
Time to call GHOSTBUSTERS!
"Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." —Voltaire
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