Scientific Proof Of God

[Alan B]

I weed this morning. I feel much better.

[Hermit]

I weed this morning. I feel much better.

We'd comment on that if it were not off topic.

[Svartalf]

but is there a liar, mentioning a question that does not actually exist, or maybe that question is just an irrelevant non sequitur?

[superuniverse]

Which of course is: does it matter if a person subscribes and adheres to any of a plethora of so-called true faiths or if they try and lead a good life, regardless of faith?

Well not that light...

You got part of the QUESTION correct, but not in the way you suppose...

Type it out so we all get it.

Dennis doesn't know. That's why he keeps asking us.

As a matter of fact, Herbert Marcuse got nothing either. That's how he concludes his One Dimensional Man anyhow:

the struggle for the solution has outgrown the traditional forms. The totalitarian tendencies of the one-dimensional society render the traditional ways and means of protest ineffective--perhaps even dangerous because they preserve the illusion of popular sovereignty. This illusion contains some truth: "the people," previously the ferment of social change, have "moved up" to become the ferment of social cohesion. Here rather than in the redistribution of wealth and equalization of classes is the new stratification characteristic of advanced industrial society.

However, underneath the conservative popular base is I the substratum of the outcasts and outsiders, the exploited and persecuted of other races and other colors, the unemployed and the unemployable. They exist outside the democratic process; their life is the most immediate and the most real need for ending intolerable conditions and institutions. Thus their opposition is revolutionary even if their consciousness is not. Their opposition hits the system from without and is therefore not deflected by the system; it is an elementary force which violates the rules of the game and, in doing so, reveals it as a rigged game. When they get together and go out into the streets, without arms, without protection, in order to ask for the most primitive civil rights, they know that they face dogs, stones, and bombs, jail, concentration camps, even death. Their force is behind every political demonstration for the victims of law and order. The fact that they start refusing to play the game may be the fact which marks the beginning of the end of a period.

Nothing indicates that it will be a good end. The economic and technical capabilities of the established societies are sufficiently vast to allow for adjustments and concessions to the underdog, and their armed forces sufficiently trained and equipped to take care of emergency situations. However, the spectre is there again, inside and outside the frontiers of the advanced societies. The facile historical parallel with the barbarians threatening the empire of civilization prejudges the issue; the second period of barbarism may well be the continued empire of civilization itself. But the chance is that, in this period, the historical extremes may meet again: the most advanced consciousness of humanity, and its most exploited force. It is nothing but a chance. The critical theory of society possesses no concepts which could bridge the gap between the present and its future; holding no promise and showing no success, it remains negative. Thus it wants to remain loyal to those who, without hope, have given and give their life to the Great Refusal.

Much warmer... but you did miss the all-important final quotation to his book.

We will get back to the QUESTION and the answer later on...

In the meantime, we are going to let HM discuss another "revolutionary weapon," and then why it is not sufficient by itself.

[Scot Dutchy]

Please somebody put him out of his misery

[superuniverse]

Please somebody put him out of his misery

Now be a good little boy and go to another thread or ...

[Joe]

Please somebody put him out of his misery

Now be a good little boy and go to another thread or ...

or email your therapist?

[Rum]

Please somebody put him out of his misery

Now be a good little boy and go to another thread or ...

You'll leave the forum?? PLEASE!?

[superuniverse]

Please somebody put him out of his misery

Now be a good little boy and go to another thread or ...

or email your therapist?

Go ahead. He is almost as deluded as you.

[Joe]

Please somebody put him out of his misery

Now be a good little boy and go to another thread or ...

or email your therapist?

Go ahead. He is almost as deluded as you.

Done! Thanks for your permission.

[superuniverse]

Please somebody put him out of his misery

Now be a good little boy and go to another thread or ...

or email your therapist?

Go ahead. He is almost as deluded as you.

Done! Thanks for your permission.

We will return the favor. Thx for your concern.

[Joe]

We will return the favor. Thx for your concern.

Knock yourself out. https://www.spvm.qc.ca/en/contact

[superuniverse]

We will return the favor. Thx for your concern.

Knock yourself out. https://www.spvm.qc.ca/en/contact

The trouble when giants fight mice... They go running scared to something they imagine can save them... WRONG!

[Rum]

[Joe]

We will return the favor. Thx for your concern.

Knock yourself out. https://www.spvm.qc.ca/en/contact

The trouble when giants fight mice... They go running scared to something they imagine can save them... WRONG!

I'm sure you'll be okay Dennis.