ISIS Responds to Pope Francis.

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ISIS Responds to Pope Francis.

Post by DaveDodo007 » Sun Aug 21, 2016 8:41 pm

"The Islamic State has publicly responded to statements by Pope Francis that the war waged by the Islamic terrorists is not religious in nature. The article answers the pontiff that their only motivation is religious and approved by Allah in the Qur’an.

Highlights of the latest issue of Dabiq – the official propaganda magazine of the Islamic State – the terrorist group is criticizing especially the naivety of Pope Francis, who’s clinging to the belief that Muslims want peace and peaceful coexistence and that Islamic terror is motivated for economic reasons. In the article “By the Sword” ( “By the Sword”), the authors categorically state: “This is a divinely-sanctioned war between the Muslim nation and the infidel nations.” […]

“Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them”

The article laments that despite the clearly religious nature of their attacks, “many people in the ‘crusaders’ country’ (Western countries)” expressed shock and even disgust because the leadership of the Islamic State ” uses religion to justify violence … Indeed, jihad – the spread of the rule of Allah with the sword – is an obligation that we find in the Qur’an, the word of our Lord, “ says the magazine. “‘Pour the blood of unbelievers’” is a common obligation. The command is very clear: kill the unbelievers, as Allah says, “kill the disbelievers wherever you find them.” “[…]

The fact is that “even if you (the West) stopped bombing us, throwing us in jail, torturing us, to humiliating and driving you us out of our land, we would continue to hate you, because the main raison of our hatred will not disappear as long as you have not embraced Islam. Even if you had to pay the jizyah [tax for infidels] and live under the authority of Islam in humiliation, we would continue to hate you. ”

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Re: ISIS Responds to Pope Francis.

Post by cronus » Mon Aug 22, 2016 2:13 am

The only way to weaken their resolve is to take land from them, mostly their own heartlands, which we learned with the Nazis and the Japs. If you ain't willing to fight the fire down the fire will keep burning down houses and spreading.
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Post by rainbow » Mon Aug 22, 2016 6:17 am

Yes this has worked well in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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Re: ISIS Responds to Pope Francis.

Post by cronus » Mon Aug 22, 2016 6:29 am

rainbow wrote:Yes this has worked well in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Exactly. Need to sandblast Mecca and their holy places to make a impact. Not some third world termite mound in the middle of nowhere. The result would be different without the geneva convention that the mussies ignore anyway. Churchill was for using gas and I'm a great fan of Churchill. :coffee:
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Re: ISIS Responds to Pope Francis.

Post by rainbow » Mon Aug 22, 2016 6:49 am

Crumple wrote:
rainbow wrote:Yes this has worked well in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Exactly. Need to sandblast Mecca and their holy places to make a impact. Not some third world termite mound in the middle of nowhere. The result would be different without the geneva convention that the mussies ignore anyway. Churchill was for using gas and I'm a great fan of Churchill. :coffee:
I think you're mixing up your heroes. Hitler was the one fond of gassing.
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Re: ISIS Responds to Pope Francis.

Post by cronus » Mon Aug 22, 2016 6:59 am

rainbow wrote:
Crumple wrote:
rainbow wrote:Yes this has worked well in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Exactly. Need to sandblast Mecca and their holy places to make a impact. Not some third world termite mound in the middle of nowhere. The result would be different without the geneva convention that the mussies ignore anyway. Churchill was for using gas and I'm a great fan of Churchill. :coffee:
I think you're mixing up your heroes. Hitler was the one fond of gassing.
Both sides had huge stockpiles ready to go in WW2 and only the fear of reprisal stopped it all happening. :coffee:
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Re: ISIS Responds to Pope Francis.

Post by rainbow » Mon Aug 22, 2016 8:18 am

Crumple wrote:
rainbow wrote:
Crumple wrote:
rainbow wrote:Yes this has worked well in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Exactly. Need to sandblast Mecca and their holy places to make a impact. Not some third world termite mound in the middle of nowhere. The result would be different without the geneva convention that the mussies ignore anyway. Churchill was for using gas and I'm a great fan of Churchill. :coffee:
I think you're mixing up your heroes. Hitler was the one fond of gassing.
Both sides had huge stockpiles ready to go in WW2 and only the fear of reprisal stopped it all happening. :coffee:
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Re: ISIS Responds to Pope Francis.

Post by cronus » Mon Aug 22, 2016 8:20 am

Vegans are like a ‘sect’ and should all be killed, top chef says

Common ground.... :tup:

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Re: ISIS Responds to Pope Francis.

Post by cronus » Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:12 am

eRvin wrote:Nice people.
Beats eating knageroo.... :food:
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Re: ISIS Responds to Pope Francis.

Post by Tyrannical » Mon Aug 22, 2016 1:57 pm

Crumple wrote:
eRvin wrote:Nice people.
Beats eating knageroo.... :food:
Leave skippy out of this ! :x
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Re: ISIS Responds to Pope Francis.

Post by JimC » Mon Aug 22, 2016 9:11 pm

Back to the OP...

Some sections of western media follow a scripted party line about Islamic fundamentalist ideology and the terrorist actions it entails. They insist, above all "this is not about religion"

Well, from the horse's mouth so to speak, they are clearly wrong...
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Re: ISIS Responds to Pope Francis.

Post by Hermit » Tue Aug 23, 2016 1:05 am

JimC wrote:Back to the OP...

Some sections of western media follow a scripted party line about Islamic fundamentalist ideology and the terrorist actions it entails. They insist, above all "this is not about religion"

Well, from the horse's mouth so to speak, they are clearly wrong...
Are you denying the possibility that social, political and economic factors are part of this imbroglio? If so, you need to explain why Islamic terrorism of the sort we are seeing in the 21st century was non-existent for most of the 20th. How many people in the occidental world were even cognisant of such words as 'sharia', 'fatwa' and 'jihad' until Salman Rushdie incurred the wrath of some imams?
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Re: ISIS Responds to Pope Francis.

Post by JimC » Tue Aug 23, 2016 1:22 am

Hermit wrote:
JimC wrote:Back to the OP...

Some sections of western media follow a scripted party line about Islamic fundamentalist ideology and the terrorist actions it entails. They insist, above all "this is not about religion"

Well, from the horse's mouth so to speak, they are clearly wrong...
Are you denying the possibility that social, political and economic factors are part of this imbroglio? If so, you need to explain why Islamic terrorism of the sort we are seeing in the 21st century was non-existent for most of the 20th. How many people in the occidental world were even cognisant of such words as 'sharia', 'fatwa' and 'jihad' until Salman Rushdie incurred the wrath of some imams?
Not at all. Just responding to commentators who insist that it is only about such factors, and that religiously inspired terrorism is some sort of western myth.

As to why that islamic terrorism has spiked more recently, surely part of the reason is the amount of oil money that has made its way into jihadist coffers, vastly increasing their capabilities...
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Re: ISIS Responds to Pope Francis.

Post by JimC » Tue Aug 23, 2016 1:36 am

Additionally, I think the Afghanistan factor was highly significant. In battling the Russians, (with US military assistance), the islamic militants gained enormous confidence that they could successfully face down a major power. The cadre of fighters then spread their skills and confidence far and wide...
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