Muslim Ban Over Handshake. Whaddayareckon Liberals?

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Re: Muslim Ban Over Handshake. Whaddayareckon Liberals?

Post by Forty Two » Thu Jun 30, 2016 11:51 am

Svartalf wrote:Not weird, Swiss... the Swiss are the most conformist of people, so ANY school activities are part of the compulsory schooling, and that trumps your religious convictions. If you don't like it, get find a private school that won't have objectionable activites and that will allow your weird quirks, and put your kids there.
Well, you know that's one way to look at it. If swim class is like math class, I guess. They also have assault weapons in every home, so, they must know better.
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar

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Re: Muslim Ban Over Handshake. Whaddayareckon Liberals?

Post by NineBerry » Thu Jun 30, 2016 11:54 am

Those are not extracurricular activities. They are part of the official schedule. The trips over several days usually combine social interaction with an actual educational topic. According to some Swiss news articles, it is by the way Evangelical Christians that cause most problems with wanting their children excused from these activities in Switzerland. Same situation in Germany.

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Re: Muslim Ban Over Handshake. Whaddayareckon Liberals?

Post by Forty Two » Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:37 pm

Sprawling on the fringes of the city
In geometric order
An insulated border
In between the bright lights
And the far unlit unknown

Growing up it all seems so one-sided
Opinions all provided
The future pre-decided
Detached and subdivided
In the mass production zone

Nowhere is the dreamer
Or the misfit so alone

Subdivisions —
In the high school halls
In the shopping malls
Conform or be cast out
Subdivisions —
In the basement bars
In the backs of cars
Be cool or be cast out
Any escape might help to smooth
The unattractive truth
But the suburbs have no charms to soothe
The restless dreams of youth

Drawn like moths we drift into the city
The timeless old attraction
Cruising for the action
Lit up like a firefly
Just to feel the living night

Some will sell their dreams for small desires
Or lose the race to rats
Get caught in ticking traps
And start to dream of somewhere
To relax their restless flight

Somewhere out of a memory
Of lighted streets on quiet nights…

--- Subdivisions, by Geddy Lee, Alex Lifeson, Neal Peart
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar

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Re: Muslim Ban Over Handshake. Whaddayareckon Liberals?

Post by Forty Two » Thu Jun 30, 2016 1:56 pm

If any handshake should be banned, it's this one -- http://www.theamericanmirror.com/video- ... hake-fail/ :funny: dorks...
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar

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Re: Muslim Ban Over Handshake. Whaddayareckon Liberals?

Post by Sælir » Thu Jun 30, 2016 8:23 pm

Forty Two wrote:A father can get fined for not allowing his kids to engage in extracurricular activities? Weird.

I hate siding with Islam on anything, but, frankly, this kind of fine sounds like considerable overreach on the part of the State.
Those are not extracurricular activities so I agree that they should be fined...
But I don't understand why she can't just go swimming. They make swimsuit for Muslim women that covers everything.


In the case of the handshake... not sure about that one. How integrated is it into Swiss culture that you shake hands with others?
I would not want anyone to force me to shake hands with anybody so I think I would side with them on this matter.

I read the whole thread though and started to wonder... don't we have a special area for philosophy here? :lay:
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