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Muslim Ban Over Handshake. Whaddayareckon Liberals?

Post by pErvinalia » Wed Apr 20, 2016 5:51 am

We obviously dislike religion here, but should someone be rejected citizenship for not shaking a woman's hand?
Switzerland has suspended the citizenship process for the family of two young Syrian brothers after the boys refused to shake hands with their female school teachers.

The boys, aged 14 and 15, said physical contact with women who were not relatives was against their Islamic faith.

The school granted them an exception to the school rule, but officials in the northern municipality of Therwil told them not to shake hands with male teachers either to avoid discrimination.

The incident sparked a national debate over religious freedoms in Switzerland, with the country’s justice minister Simonetta Sommaruga telling Swiss public television “shaking hands is part of our culture”.

A spokesman for the Basel-Country canton, where Therwil is located, said naturalisation proceedings had been put on hold.

But he said such suspensions were common in citizenship procedures.

The boys’ father is a Syrian imam who moved to Switzerland in 2001 and had his asylum request granted.

The migration office in Basel is seeking more information about the circumstances under which the father’s asylum claim was accepted, according to the AFP news agency.

Some Swiss Muslim groups said there was no religious reason to refuse a female teacher’s handshake and urged the country not to give in to extremist demands.

However one Islamic organisation said a handshake between a man and a woman was prohibited.
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Post by Tyrannical » Wed Apr 20, 2016 6:17 am

Failure to adopt a host country's culture is an excellent reason to deport someone.
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Post by rainbow » Wed Apr 20, 2016 8:12 am

Tyrannical wrote:Failure to adopt a host country's culture is an excellent reason to deport someone.
We in Africa have the same problem. Foreigners come here and expect flush toilets, when a long-drop works perfectly well.
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Post by Svartalf » Wed Apr 20, 2016 8:51 am

flush toilets are definitely more comfy.
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Post by NineBerry » Wed Apr 20, 2016 8:52 am

Tyrannical wrote:Failure to adopt a host country's culture is an excellent reason to deport someone.
You know that Mussolini introduced the fascist Roman salute (later to become the Nazi salute) because he thought handshakes were unhygienic? :mrgreen:

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Post by Svartalf » Wed Apr 20, 2016 8:58 am

\V/ Peace and Prosperity, or is it Live long and prosper?

This said, if their muslamic culture is more important to them than the culture of their adoptive land, let tem live in a muslamic country.
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Post by JimC » Wed Apr 20, 2016 9:03 am

Svartalf wrote:\V/ Peace and Prosperity, or is it Live long and prosper?

This said, if their muslamic culture is more important to them than the culture of their adoptive land, let tem live in a muslamic country.
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Post by pErvinalia » Wed Apr 20, 2016 9:07 am

But that's a different question. The issue isn't whether they can go and live in another country, it's whether they should be expelled from their new country just because they refuse to shake hands with women. I don't know about the rest of the world, but in old school Australia men don't shake hands with women either.
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Post by JimC » Wed Apr 20, 2016 9:11 am

Fuck 'em, I'm over stupid fucking muslims. They want to move to the west, they take the whole package and they leave their nasty misogyny behind, or GTFO...
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Post by pErvinalia » Wed Apr 20, 2016 9:13 am

Not shaking hands with women is pretty minor. If they do worse than that, though, I'd agree they can piss off.
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Post by pErvinalia » Wed Apr 20, 2016 9:14 am

And keep in mind that in a liberal democracy, you shouldn't be able to force someone to do something they don't want to (that is not required for a greater reason (like paying taxes for example)). Should we deport all the old misogynistic country men who don't shake hands with women too?
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Post by Svartalf » Wed Apr 20, 2016 9:43 am

rEvolutionist wrote:Not shaking hands with women is pretty minor. If they do worse than that, though, I'd agree they can piss off.
they start refusing to shake hands and next thing they demand the wimminz hide in full body veils, it's a slippery slope thing.
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Post by pErvinalia » Wed Apr 20, 2016 10:09 am

Is it?
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Post by Hermit » Wed Apr 20, 2016 10:14 am

Tyrannical wrote:Failure to adopt a host country's culture is an excellent reason to deport someone.
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Post by NineBerry » Wed Apr 20, 2016 10:21 am

I think you shouldn't be allowed to force other people to indulge in backwards harmful traditions.

That goes for forcing other people to cover up as well as forcing other people to shake hands.

I personally hate shaking hands. I very easily catch the flu or other infectious diseases of the respiratory system so I try to avoid shaking hands as much as possible. A school having a tradition of every student shaking the hand of every teacher over the day should be closed down because it is a bio hazard.

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