Poll: Whaddya reckon about God's existence?

[Hermit]

Someone around here keeps busting his vein about Atheists (as opposed to atheists). I thought it might be interesting to see where Rationalians stand. Revoting is enabled.

[tattuchu]

I like busting a nut rather than busting a vein. Anyway, I chose "de facto atheist" but I really don't like the distinction. No one can know with 100% certainty that there is or is not a god, in the same way that we don't don't know anything with 100% certainty. But to me this is just a useless game of semantics. There should be only two choices: 1) I believe in God 2) I don't believe in God. Well, okay, three choices if we (quite sensibly) include cheese and bacon as an option.

[MiM]

Tatt put it down properly in another thread. The given options does not properly cover this, so cheese.

She seems to think that if you're cool with other people believing what they want, then that makes you an agnostic
I said agnostics were fence-sitters who couldn't make up their fucking minds. They couldn't decide whether they believed in God or not. They're not sure because they don't think there's enough evidence either way to know for certain. I said this is a bullshit position because nowhere else do we say we're "agnostic" about thing, things like unicorns or fairies. We just say they don't exist. Yes there's a chance they exist. If you want to play that stupid game then, yes, it's possible they exist. But possible and probable are two different things. The possibility of unicorns or fairies existing is so absurdly small as to be virtually non-existent. So we simply say they don't exist. We very reasonable conclude that they don't exist. We might more accurately say "they don't likely exist" but that's just retarded semantics. It's no different with gods. We can safely conclude, from the lack of evidence and the lack of consistency with the rest of our knowledge of the universe, that they don't exist. The only reason people say they're "agnostic" about God is because they get wishy-washy when the subject of religion comes up and they afford the idea of God undue respect, a respect it doesn't deserve. The idea of a god or gods is retarded, just like any other retarded idea. I told her people have a perfect right to believe whatever retarded bullshit they want. But I have a perfect right to consider retarded bullshit retarded bullshit. I respect people's right to believe what they wish. But that doesn't mean I respect the beliefs themselves. Not if they're bullshit.
Atheism is a lack of belief in God, I told her. Simples.

[Hermit]

No one can know with 100% certainty that there is or is not a god

Some people claim 100% certainty, and they are the ones our resident apoplectic vein buster keeps referring to with his capital A Atheist label, so I thought why not find out how many forum members this might apply to.

[Tero]

I can feel it in my heart! A cold stone.

[Svartalf]

No one can know with 100% certainty that there is or is not a god

Some people claim 100% certainty, and they are the ones our resident apoplectic vein buster keeps referring to with his capital A Atheist label, so I thought why not find out how many forum members this might apply to.

Those people are silly, absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, so you can never be reasonably 100% sure... even if it's silly to act like there is a deity in the absolute absence of proper evidence.

[tattuchu]

Cod is what I believe in, with chips and mushy peas. Haddock is okay, too. I also believe in Haddock.

[Svartalf]

But at least, when you ead Cod, it looks like fish, not like a wafer.

[Faithfree]

I'm only 99.999931415936...% sure, so I'll go de facto. I still hold out the remote chance of a sick trickster god who has created a universe perfectly devoid of any evidence for his/her/its existence in order to spring the surprise of eternal damnation and hellfire on any who take the logical bait.

[tattuchu]

I changed my answer to strong atheist. *flexes muscle* I'm confident God doesn't exist, in as much as I can be reasonably confident about anything.

[MiM]

I'm only 99.999931415936...% sure, so I'll go de facto. I still hold out the remote chance of a sick trickster god who has created a universe perfectly devoid of any evidence for his/her/its existence in order to spring the surprise of eternal damnation and hellfire on any who take the logical bait.

That could fit nicely together wit the simulation argument. If that argument holds, and we actually are inside a running simulation, then I guess God(s) exist.

[cronus]

Does it matter? I'm not a hundred per cent sure the moon has a backside but don't lose sleep over it. Save it for the afterlife if there is one. A good question if there is a second chance at the game of life.

[Animavore]

Where's the, "Irrelevant to me if there are any gods . Nothing changes. The sky is still blue. The grass keeps growing. And people will believe what they want to believe" option?

[tattuchu]

Does it matter? I'm not a hundred per cent sure the moon has a backside but don't lose sleep over it. Save it for the afterlife if there is one. A good question if there is a second chance at the game of life.

Wait. The moon has an ass?

[JimC]

Shouldn't the 5th option be "a little less than 50%"?