Christian preacher John Craven held 'without food or water'

[cronus]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-ma ... r-26816850

Christian preacher John Craven held 'without food or water'

A Christian street preacher who was held by police without food or water for 15 hours after he was arrested over comments he made to two gay teenagers has been given £13,000 in compensation.

John Craven was held in Manchester after two boys claimed they were offended by his views on homosexuality.

The 57-year-old said the experience in September 2011 had been "distressing".

Greater Manchester Police agreed to compensate Mr Craven after he alleged a breach of his human rights.

Mr Craven, who has regularly preached in Manchester city centre for seven years, was approached by the boys while he was preaching about salvation.

He said the teenagers asked him what he thought of gays, which he had answered by quoting from the Bible's teachings on the subject, before adding that "whilst God hates sin, He loves the sinner".

He said the pair then began to kiss in front of him and act out sexual acts.

The boys then reported Mr Craven to a nearby mounted police constable, who placed him under arrest for "public order offences".

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[Drewish]

If they had just made out in front of him, no problem, but damn it if the gays aren't proving themselves to be just as bad as the homophobes regarding using the government as their own personal thought police.

[cronus]

If they had just made out in front of him, no problem, but damn it if the gays aren't proving themselves to be just as bad as the homophobes regarding using the government as their own personal thought police.

Terrible thing, the great get even in life. That's how it works.

[Drewish]

Ah, oppression is okay, so long as you'r epart of a tribe that oppressed others first? How about you start preaching about original sin while you're spewing that drivel.

[Ayaan]

If they had just made out in front of him, no problem, but damn it if the gays aren't proving themselves to be just as bad as the homophobes regarding using the government as their own personal thought police.

Terrible thing, the great get even in life. That's how it works.

The treatment of the preacher was inexcusable; however, in this case, 'the gays' were teenagers and teenagers are hardly known for thinking beyond the moment and about anyone other than themselves (yes, this is a generalization, not a statement concerning all teenagers at all times). They were offended and they complained. The fact that the preacher had been preaching in the area for seven years, shows that most people had ignored him for the most part.

[cronus]

I disagree. The preacher represents one of the most oppressive forces on Earth regards homophobia, religion needs to be driven back with a pitchfork. When people are being hung by religious freaks I find no issue with one spending a day without bread and water.

[Drewish]

I disagree. The preacher represents one of the most oppressive forces on Earth regards homophobia, religion needs to be driven back with a pitchfork. When people are being hung by religious freaks I find no issue with one spending a day without bread and water.

Do you even hear yourself? Tribalism is the enemy, not religion.

[cronus]

I disagree. The preacher represents one of the most oppressive forces on Earth regards homophobia, religion needs to be driven back with a pitchfork. When people are being hung by religious freaks I find no issue with one spending a day without bread and water.

Do you even hear yourself? Tribalism is the enemy, not religion.

No, tribalism is encoded for. It is important to choose the right tribe if you have choice. But it ain't going away anytime soon.

[klr]

Maybe he can magick up some food, like Jesus.

[laklak]

For 13 Gs you can tie me to a bed and buttsex me for 15 hours.

[cronus]

A real Christian would not complain let alone seeking thousands in compensation for missing lunch. Where's turning the other cheek in that?

[JimC]

For 13 Gs you can tie me to a bed and buttsex me for 15 hours.

A real Christian would not complain let alone seeking thousands in compensation for missing lunch. Where's turning the other cheek in that?

[mistermack]

Nobody should be held without food or water for that long, no matter what the circumstances.

But they do seem to have gone way over the top with the award.

There's a real bad principle at work here. The judge doesn't have to pay. The police don't have to pay.
The taxpayer, who was completely innocent in the matter, has to pay.

These damages against the state are out of all proportion to the original fault.
The money should come out of the Judges and Police pension funds, not from the taxpayer.
Then they both might start taking public money seriously.

[tattuchu]

I'm a little confused. It's illegal to offend someone in England

[Svartalf]

Well, since offending people is proof of bad manners and bad manners are a worse crime than eating babies after raping them...