Biggest challenge to my denial of the supernatural yet

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Re: Biggest challenge to my denial of the supernatural yet

Post by TheGreatGatsby » Sat Jan 22, 2011 10:58 pm

Hmm, the original post looks pretty stupid to me now.
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Re: Biggest challenge to my denial of the supernatural yet

Post by Hermit » Sun Jan 23, 2011 1:01 am

TheGreatGatsby wrote:Hmm, the original post looks pretty stupid to me now.
Hey, look at the bright side. This is what I do in such situations: I have come to a better understanding. Recognising mistakes, and learning from from them means progress. To me that is a good thing.

I'll spare you the Popper quote concerning this. ;)
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Re: Biggest challenge to my denial of the supernatural yet

Post by DRSB » Tue Mar 29, 2011 4:46 pm

I can't believe they continue talking about Vanga in Russia and ascribing all sorts of prophecies to her, I mean, she's been dead for 18 years! Apparently, only yesterday there was a TV program reporting that she has predicted the coming down of Japan!

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Re: Biggest challenge to my denial of the supernatural yet

Post by JOZeldenrust » Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:29 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
Deersbee wrote:Symbols are the language of the Unconscious, to quote old Jung. This is all I'm saying, Tarot-induced meditation aims at accessing the unconscious, it only works for personal use though, not to access the unconscious of other people.
What do you mean "it works?" Works to actually do what?

Tarot cards are stack of cards with different symbols on them. You deal the cards. Even if you're dealing the cards "for yourself", the cards aren't coming out in any pattern or order that is personal to you. They are inanimate objects and unless you're choosing which cards are coming up, they are coming up according to your essentially random shuffle.

What possible relation to you could they have?

Is it irrelevant how the cards come up? There just needs to be some set of symbols to contemplate?
Yes, it is irrelevant in what order the cards come up. Tarot is useful, because it helps look at a situation from a different perspective. That perspective is random, but random within a set of concepts that are useful for looking at most things people worry about.

It's a bit of randomness to get you out of your own cognitive comfort zone.

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Re: Biggest challenge to my denial of the supernatural yet

Post by DRSB » Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:52 pm

JOZeldenrust wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
Deersbee wrote:Symbols are the language of the Unconscious, to quote old Jung. This is all I'm saying, Tarot-induced meditation aims at accessing the unconscious, it only works for personal use though, not to access the unconscious of other people.
What do you mean "it works?" Works to actually do what?

Tarot cards are stack of cards with different symbols on them. You deal the cards. Even if you're dealing the cards "for yourself", the cards aren't coming out in any pattern or order that is personal to you. They are inanimate objects and unless you're choosing which cards are coming up, they are coming up according to your essentially random shuffle.

What possible relation to you could they have?

Is it irrelevant how the cards come up? There just needs to be some set of symbols to contemplate?
Yes, it is irrelevant in what order the cards come up. Tarot is useful, because it helps look at a situation from a different perspective. That perspective is random, but random within a set of concepts that are useful for looking at most things people worry about.

It's a bit of randomness to get you out of your own cognitive comfort zone.
And sometimes you'll be accurate in your predictions as well, it is inevitable.

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Re: Biggest challenge to my denial of the supernatural yet

Post by DRSB » Tue Jun 28, 2016 1:07 pm

Did the blind mystic who predicted 9/11 also predict Brexit… and suggest a WAR in Europe would follow?

https://www.thesun.co.uk/living/1350703 ... -504006024

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Re: Biggest challenge to my denial of the supernatural yet

Post by Hermit » Tue Jun 28, 2016 1:31 pm

20th century Nostradamus.
So you talk about mobs and the working classes as if they were the question. You've got that eternal idiotic idea that if anarchy came it would come from the poor. Why should it? The poor have been rebels, but they have never been anarchists; they have more interest than anyone else in there being some decent government. The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all. Aristocrats were always anarchists. - G.K. Chesterton

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Re: Biggest challenge to my denial of the supernatural yet

Post by Svartalf » Tue Jun 28, 2016 1:33 pm

At least nostradamus had interesting doggerel to cover his absence of vision.
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Re: Biggest challenge to my denial of the supernatural yet

Post by JimC » Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:32 pm

Yet one more zombie thread has arisen, dripping with foetid ooze from the dark abyss of the forum's past...
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Re: Biggest challenge to my denial of the supernatural yet

Post by Forty Two » Wed Jun 29, 2016 12:55 pm

Your approach to this forum is so linear....
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Re: Biggest challenge to my denial of the supernatural yet

Post by Brian Peacock » Wed Jun 29, 2016 1:57 pm

JimC wrote:Yet one more zombie thread has arisen, dripping with foetid ooze from the dark abyss of the forum's past...
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Re: Biggest challenge to my denial of the supernatural yet

Post by JimC » Thu Jun 30, 2016 1:00 am

Forty Two wrote:Your approach to this forum is so linear....
Actually it's parabolic... :tea:
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Re: Biggest challenge to my denial of the supernatural yet

Post by Hermit » Thu Jun 30, 2016 1:29 am

JimC wrote:
Forty Two wrote:Your approach to this forum is so linear....
Actually it's parabolic... :tea:
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So you talk about mobs and the working classes as if they were the question. You've got that eternal idiotic idea that if anarchy came it would come from the poor. Why should it? The poor have been rebels, but they have never been anarchists; they have more interest than anyone else in there being some decent government. The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all. Aristocrats were always anarchists. - G.K. Chesterton

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Re: Biggest challenge to my denial of the supernatural yet

Post by JimC » Thu Jun 30, 2016 1:29 am

That too... :Jack:
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Re: Biggest challenge to my denial of the supernatural yet

Post by DRSB » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:56 am

Wow! OK, it's The Sun, but still, I thought she war forgotten in England! She was not Romanian by the way, she was Bulgarian, they still hold her in very high esteem in Russia and publish a new biography every year. Russian film stars and politicians have been taken to see her as a special treat.
THE Blind mystic who people claim “predicted 9/11, the rise of ISIS, the Boxing day tsunami and Brexit” also gave her thoughts for 2019.

Baba Vanga may have passed away in 1996 when she was 85, but that didn’t stop her from giving her predictions for next year – so will she be spot on?
https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/79468 ... -forecast/

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