Biggest challenge to my denial of the supernatural yet

[stripes4]

I'm not having any world wars starting now that I've put the Xmas tree up. WWIII will have to be postponed until after the festivities.

I am getting fed up of your stupid tree already. Take it down this instant

[Clinton Huxley]

I'm not having any world wars starting now that I've put the Xmas tree up. WWIII will have to be postponed until after the festivities.

I am getting fed up of your stupid tree already. Take it down this instant

Tree envy is not becoming, dear Stripes.

[stripes4]

I'm not having any world wars starting now that I've put the Xmas tree up. WWIII will have to be postponed until after the festivities.

I am getting fed up of your stupid tree already. Take it down this instant

Tree envy is not becoming, dear Stripes.

[Feck]

I'm not having any world wars starting now that I've put the Xmas tree up. WWIII will have to be postponed until after the festivities.

Oh Christmas ..I got junk mail from a jewellers today .I don't think it will be a world war but there will be some Wailing and gnashing of teeth this year down south

[Hermit]

I've been a nonbeliever for more than a year now, but recently I came a cross a very disturbing "coincidence" that has me thinking twice about the existence of supernatural forces.

Baba Vanga, a little-known Romanian prophetess, predicted in 1980 that in August 1999 or 2000 Kursk would be under water (this is exactly how she phrased it, no possibility of reinterpretation here). Kursk is a Russian city that did not sink in either 1999 or 2000. However, in August 2000 a huge submarine named Kursk sank, killing more than 100 people.

Also, she predicted that WW3 would start in November 2010, which is weird given the current situation in Korea. (she claimed it would start with nuclear explosions, which will be either confirmed or disproved in the coming months.

I'm not saying that this is definitive proof of supernatural powers, but I think it certainly needs quite a serious investigation.

Time to re-evaluate your opinion?

[Eriku]

Wiki's already gotten around to it... that great big laundry list of a future is not there anymore... She's just another failed prophet as far as it's concerned now.

[DRSB]

Actually, what do you want from Vanga?! She never proclaimed herself a prophet, people sought her out, she helped a lot with healing and diagnosis. Example: my mom went to her once (I'm Bulgarian by the way) and was told like "the little girl will be diagnosed with the black disease, but it will be something entirely else." At that time my mum had no idea what she was talking about and later forgot about it. Several years later, my niece was diagnosed with epilepsy, at 10, and was even put on drugs already. My mum suddenly recalled what Vanga had said, and initiated another round of examinations, guess what, no epilepsy for my niece, turned out a nurse had totally misread some results, she had something totally harmless.

[Eriku]

You seem to place some stake in this? At any rate, I could find a faffload of other anecdotes like yours, even more fantastical ones, even... some from hucksters (though I don't doubt their being sincere) in my very own country, which is allegedly secular and clever.

She's just another person shrouded in mystery, and a bloody stopped clock is right twice a day so... Yeah.

Also, I never said she proclaimed herself a prophet. I was talking about the hype this Vanga character seems to have generated over the past few months... at least in certain invested circles.

[Trolldor]

Actually, what do you want from Vanga?! She never proclaimed herself a prophet, people sought her out, she helped a lot with healing and diagnosis. Example: my mom went to her once (I'm Bulgarian by the way) and was told like "the little girl will be diagnosed with the black disease, but it will be something entirely else." At that time my mum had no idea what she was talking about and later forgot about it. Several years later, my niece was diagnosed with epilepsy, at 10, and was even put on drugs already. My mum suddenly recalled what Vanga had said, and initiated another round of examinations, guess what, no epilepsy for my niece, turned out a nurse had totally misread some results, she had something totally harmless.

I lol'd so fucking hard I am glad there are no patients in this close to closing time.

The 'black disease' could be anything, but not epilepsy. Epilepsy, for starters, is not a disease.

[Trolldor]

Oh, also, Nurses don't make diagnoses.

Misappropriated medication is not a diagnoses.

Your rather liberal with your interpretation. She may as well have said "Something will go medically wrong but turn out okay"

[Hermit]

She never proclaimed herself a prophet

Disingenuous woman, that. "Oh, I'm not claiming to be a prophet", but here are a few dozen of the thousands of prophesies she made.

If it waddles like a duck...

[DRSB]

The Mad Hatter:

I lol'd so fucking hard I am glad there are no patients in this close to closing time.

The 'black disease' could be anything, but not epilepsy. Epilepsy, for starters, is not a disease.

My mother was not sure either what "black disease" meant and so forgot all about that, but later recalled it just in time, she totally credits Vanga with the correction of the epilepsy-diagnosis. On the other hand, Vanga had told her that my brother would not go blind (he has juvenile diabetes), but the poor chap did and despite numerous surgeries now at 49 is stock-blind, so Vanga was proven wrong.

[Xamonas Chegwé]

The Mad Hatter:

I lol'd so fucking hard I am glad there are no patients in this close to closing time.

The 'black disease' could be anything, but not epilepsy. Epilepsy, for starters, is not a disease.

My mother was not sure either what "black disease" meant and so forgot all about that, but later recalled it just in time, she totally credits Vanga with the correction of the epilepsy-diagnosis. On the other hand, Vanga had told her that my brother would not go blind (he has juvenile diabetes), but the poor chap did and despite numerous surgeries now at 49 is stock-blind, so Vanga was proven wrong.

So the vague prophecy, that could pretty much mean anything that you want it to mean and would apply to pretty much everyone at some point in their life were the interpretation stretched far enough, came true, but the specific one with actual details in it, was a complete, and personally tragic, fuck-up. Thus is ever prophecy.

[Feck]

It's December no world war .. yet

[charlou]

Sooner or later some disaster, natural or 'man-made', will occur and the post hoc woo merchants will get their rocks off with their simultaneously gleeful and gormless we-told-you-sos.