Biggest challenge to my denial of the supernatural yet

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Biggest challenge to my denial of the supernatural yet

Post by TheGreatGatsby » Sun Nov 28, 2010 9:17 pm

I've been a nonbeliever for more than a year now, but recently I came a cross a very disturbing "coincidence" that has me thinking twice about the existence of supernatural forces.

Baba Vanga, a little-known Romanian prophetess, predicted in 1980 that in August 1999 or 2000 Kursk would be under water (this is exactly how she phrased it, no possibility of reinterpretation here). Kursk is a Russian city that did not sink in either 1999 or 2000. However, in August 2000 a huge submarine named Kursk sank, killing more than 100 people.

Also, she predicted that WW3 would start in November 2010, which is weird given the current situation in Korea. (she claimed it would start with nuclear explosions, which will be either confirmed or disproved in the coming months.

I'm not saying that this is definitive proof of supernatural powers, but I think it certainly needs quite a serious investigation.
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Post by Feck » Sun Nov 28, 2010 9:20 pm

So do you think that parts of the future are predestined or that information flows back in time to us ?
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Post by TheGreatGatsby » Sun Nov 28, 2010 9:21 pm

No, which is why this woman (Vanga) admittedly disturbs me.
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Re: Biggest challenge to my denial of the supernatural yet

Post by Azathoth » Sun Nov 28, 2010 9:22 pm

How much other shite did she gibber in her lifetime that hasn't happened?
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Re: Biggest challenge to my denial of the supernatural yet

Post by Pappa » Sun Nov 28, 2010 9:24 pm

Ghatanothoa wrote:How much other shite did she gibber in her lifetime that hasn't happened?
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Plus... how much shit did x amount of other people gibber over x amount of time that never happened either?
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Re: Biggest challenge to my denial of the supernatural yet

Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Sun Nov 28, 2010 9:27 pm

Ghatanothoa wrote:How much other shite did she gibber in her lifetime that hasn't happened?
This is the crux of it. To be a successful prophet, all it takes is one or two coincidences out of hundreds of vague, open to interpretation utterances. The same verses of Nostradamus have been associated with dozens of different events over the years. The important thing to remember is that it is all bollocks. :tea:
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Post by TheGreatGatsby » Sun Nov 28, 2010 9:30 pm

Still, I have a feeling of unease about brushing the submarine coincidence aside just like that.
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Post by Feck » Sun Nov 28, 2010 9:33 pm

TheGreatGatsby wrote:Still, I have a feeling of unease about brushing the submarine coincidence aside just like that.
You said it coincidence ...
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Re: Biggest challenge to my denial of the supernatural yet

Post by Pappa » Sun Nov 28, 2010 9:37 pm

TheGreatGatsby wrote:Still, I have a feeling of unease about brushing the submarine coincidence aside just like that.
But if she literally said "Kursk would be underwater", that could mean a lot of things. The prediction would ring true even if the City of Kursk had higher than average rainfall, or presumably lots of other things.
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Re: Biggest challenge to my denial of the supernatural yet

Post by Feck » Sun Nov 28, 2010 9:38 pm

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TheGreatGatsby wrote:Still, I have a feeling of unease about brushing the submarine coincidence aside just like that.
But if she literally said "Kursk would be underwater", that could mean a lot of things. The prediction would ring true even if the City of Kursk had higher than average rainfall, or presumably lots of other things.

And THE Kursk spent a lot of time underwater it was a sub .
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Post by TheGreatGatsby » Sun Nov 28, 2010 9:38 pm

She also said that the whole world would be weeping over it, as they did with the submarine tragedy, so any non-tragic circumstances are ruled out (except if we see weeping as a metaphor for rain, which is a little far-fetched)
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Re: Biggest challenge to my denial of the supernatural yet

Post by Feck » Sun Nov 28, 2010 9:39 pm

I don't think the whole world was weeping .
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Post by TheGreatGatsby » Sun Nov 28, 2010 9:40 pm

Here's the quote to avoid any further confusion: “At the turn of the century, in August of 1999 or 2000, Kursk will be covered with water, and the whole world will be weeping over it.” (1980)
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Post by TheGreatGatsby » Sun Nov 28, 2010 9:42 pm

Feck wrote:I don't think the whole world was weeping .
I don't think that's even possible. It was still a huge international story.
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Re: Biggest challenge to my denial of the supernatural yet

Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Sun Nov 28, 2010 9:44 pm

TheGreatGatsby wrote:She also said that the whole world would be weeping over it, as they did with the submarine tragedy, so any non-tragic circumstances are ruled out (except if we see weeping as a metaphor for rain, which is a little far-fetched)
OK. Do you have the provenance of this prophecy? You say she was "little known". Are you even sure that she existed, that she is not just a clever hoax? Have you a complete list of her predictions? If so, are any others as accurate?

Do we even know that you are not trying to hoax us right now?
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