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Re: Free Will.

Post by Clinton Huxley » Tue Feb 09, 2016 11:41 am

mistermack wrote:
Another blatant example, is the "browning" of British TV.
On commercial tv, practically every advert has either a black family, or even a mixed race family, portrayed in the commercial. Mixed marriages are pretty rare, but you see them all over ITV commercials. And the BBC does it's bit, by having far more black and asian presenters than the mix in the country would normally support.
It's been like that for years on the BBC, and in the early days, some of the black newscasters were so bad, it was actually embarrassing to watch.

The intention is obviously to convince us all that blacks and asians are just as british as everybody else

And it works. Nobody seems to question any of it, or even notice that it's going on.
According to the Creative Diversity Network, it's men under 55 who are over-represented on the telly.

From their report....

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/o ... elevision
TV diversity – percentage of people on-screen who are …
Women: 42%

Over 55: 16.1%

Minority ethnic: 13.4%

Disabled: 2.5%

Lesbian, gay or bisexual: 1%

Source: CDN Study

According to the report, 12.9% of the population is "ethnic minority" (2011 census) but 13.4% of the people on TV were, a whopping "browning" of TV indeed. The BBC was at 12.2%, so was actually under-representing.

Now, the survey was only a snapshot of TV output and maybe there was bias in they way it was conducted but I don't think Mistermack's assertion is supported. MM specifically references adverts. If I was an advertising exec I'd include as many different demographics in my adverts as possible. In fact, I'd target anyone who had money and might buy my product. No conspiracy.

I'd also like to know, if "they" are trying to convince "us" that "blacks and Asians are just as british as everyone else", what being british means, exactly. I don't think I got invited to that committee.
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Re: Free Will.

Post by rainbow » Tue Feb 09, 2016 12:12 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:Stop providing nebulous links. You can either answer questions put to you in your own words, or you don't understand the topic.
They are not nebulous, you just don't understand the significance.
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Re: Free Will.

Post by pErvinalia » Tue Feb 09, 2016 12:15 pm

Ffs. You just can't give a straight answer, can you? This is why you get labelled a troll. Specifically support your empty assertions, or go and annoy someone else.
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Re: Free Will.

Post by rainbow » Tue Feb 09, 2016 12:34 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:Ffs. You just can't give a straight answer, can you? This is why you get labelled a troll. Specifically support your empty assertions, or go and annoy someone else.
Typically you get upset when you've argued yourself into a corner.

My advice is don't argue yourself into a corner. :prof:

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Re: Free Will.

Post by pErvinalia » Tue Feb 09, 2016 12:39 pm

Wibble.

Explain your empty assertions.
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Re: Free Will.

Post by mistermack » Tue Feb 09, 2016 4:46 pm

Clinton Huxley wrote:
mistermack wrote:
Another blatant example, is the "browning" of British TV.
On commercial tv, practically every advert has either a black family, or even a mixed race family, portrayed in the commercial. Mixed marriages are pretty rare, but you see them all over ITV commercials. And the BBC does it's bit, by having far more black and asian presenters than the mix in the country would normally support.
It's been like that for years on the BBC, and in the early days, some of the black newscasters were so bad, it was actually embarrassing to watch.

The intention is obviously to convince us all that blacks and asians are just as british as everybody else

And it works. Nobody seems to question any of it, or even notice that it's going on.
According to the Creative Diversity Network, it's men under 55 who are over-represented on the telly.

From their report....

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/o ... elevision
TV diversity – percentage of people on-screen who are …
Women: 42%

Over 55: 16.1%

Minority ethnic: 13.4%

Disabled: 2.5%

Lesbian, gay or bisexual: 1%

Source: CDN Study

According to the report, 12.9% of the population is "ethnic minority" (2011 census) but 13.4% of the people on TV were, a whopping "browning" of TV indeed. The BBC was at 12.2%, so was actually under-representing.

Now, the survey was only a snapshot of TV output and maybe there was bias in they way it was conducted but I don't think Mistermack's assertion is supported. MM specifically references adverts. If I was an advertising exec I'd include as many different demographics in my adverts as possible. In fact, I'd target anyone who had money and might buy my product. No conspiracy.

I'd also like to know, if "they" are trying to convince "us" that "blacks and Asians are just as british as everyone else", what being british means, exactly. I don't think I got invited to that committee.
You're probably right.
If your figures are right. I really didn't realise just how brown Britain actually has become now.
That probably comes from not living in London, or Bradford. Because of the huge concentration of blacks and Asians in geographically small pockets, you can get a false impression of just how much the country has changed. If you'd asked me what the ethnic makeup of the UK was, I'd have said about three percent black and Asian without looking it up. I find the 13% figure astounding.

I still think we're being indoctrinated in many other areas though.
A big one is portraying the monarchy as a good thing. The BBC and commercial stations all do it, but the BBC is by far the most blatant.
Virtually every episode of the news has Prince Charles, or one of the Cambridges doing something heroic for "charity".
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Re: Free Will.

Post by rainbow » Wed Feb 10, 2016 6:35 am

rEvolutionist wrote: Explain your empty assertions.
They are only empty to one that has no understanding of Philosophy. Clearly it is difficult for one on a lower plane of consciousness.
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Re: Free Will.

Post by pErvinalia » Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:19 am

They are empty by definition. You made them, but gave no explanation. Troll.
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Re: Free Will.

Post by rainbow » Wed Feb 10, 2016 10:17 am

rEvolutionist wrote:They are empty by definition.
Drivel.
You made them, but gave no explanation.
No you just failed to understand them.

I even gave you a picture. :ddpan:
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Re: Free Will.

Post by pErvinalia » Wed Feb 10, 2016 10:25 am

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