"Satan doesnt want people talking about God."

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Re: "Satan doesnt want people talking about God."

Post by Feck » Thu Aug 12, 2010 10:15 am

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Eriku wrote:I'd like for people to stop talking about God, does that make me Satan?
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Re: "Satan doesnt want people talking about God."

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Re: "Satan doesnt want people talking about God."

Post by Hermit » Thu Aug 12, 2010 10:20 am

Lion IRC wrote:Satan doesnt want people talking about God.
Neither satan nor god exist.

I think it is more accurate to say that religious leaders don't want anyone but themselves - and those who agree with their dogmas - to talk about god.

These days, thankfully, they can't enforce that any more. Gone are the days, for example, when people who translated and published the bible into languages the natives could actually speak and understand were persecuted.
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Re: "Satan doesnt want people talking about God."

Post by MrFungus420 » Thu Aug 12, 2010 10:25 am

Lion IRC wrote:
MrFungus420 wrote:Try to keep up, this is very simple.

I do not believe in your god.
I do not believe in the stories in your Bible.
That means that I cannot take the Biblical descriptions of Hell literally because I do not believe that it is a literal place.
Well why didnt you just say so in the first place.
I have never hidden it.
Lion IRC wrote:Instead you shot your load 3 or 4 times in this thread before realising where you were

...Oh wait..I didnt see the words "satan" and "God" title of the thread...
I'm pointing out some of the problems and inconsistencies with some of the claims of your religion.
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And maybe you should try to answer the points made instead of trying to be cute and clever. You are neither.
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Re: "Satan doesnt want people talking about God."

Post by MrFungus420 » Thu Aug 12, 2010 10:27 am

Lion IRC wrote:No way this thread makes it to 4 pages.
Hmmm....

Your powers of precognition are on par with your powers of logic and reasoning.
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Re: "Satan doesnt want people talking about God."

Post by JimC » Thu Aug 12, 2010 10:28 am

MRFungus420 wrote:

And maybe you should try to answer the points made instead of trying to be cute and clever. You are neither.
Quite unfair! :lay:

He may well be cute...
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Re: "Satan doesnt want people talking about God."

Post by Feck » Thu Aug 12, 2010 10:58 am

It is always good when people talk about God ......what a nice thing to say :shiver: because obviously If we talk about HIM (which HIM or HER is it good to talk about?)
then we will come to learn about His love for us and his wisdom and all those other logical fallacies that the believers fill thier heads with.
The arrogance of the idea astounds .

Smile in that saccarine way xians do when faced with the Fact that they believe (in thier hearts :roll: ) a load of rubbish and other people don't . (Yeah Jesus loves me :lol: )

Xians, like vomit soaked tramps waving thier cider bottles around assuring us that if we too would only believe them and take a swallow we would be convinced that it's wonderfull stuff and rush off to the shop round the corner and buy a bottle .

And Lion I left this thread because there wasn't much else to say ,it didn't need anymore input from me (or anyone really) but if you are going to tout my name like me not being interested in your brand of cheap vomit inducing cider is some sort of victory then more fool you .
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Re: "Satan doesnt want people talking about God."

Post by Lion IRC » Fri Aug 13, 2010 4:00 am

Feck wrote: And Lion I left this thread because there wasn't much else to say ,it didn't need anymore input from me (or anyone really) but if you are going to tout my name like me not being interested in your brand of cheap vomit inducing cider is some sort of victory then more fool you .
" I left this thread"???

.....or so I thought

Welcome back. BTW - what does "tout" mean? I would hate to accidentally do something I didnt realise.

@MrFungus420 - I would not have believed this thread would make 4 pages. Clearly, I dont have any powers of precognition when it comes to the willingness of atheists to engage in theology debates. All to often the debate goes on for hours and hours and THEN the atheist says...."theres no God - so I win"
Now youre asking me to answer your "point". You ALREADY made your POINT>
"I do not believe in your god. I do not believe in the stories in your Bible. That means that I cannot take the Biblical descriptions of Hell literally because I do not believe that it is a literal place." Game over - thanks for playing. Say hi to Feck when you see him.


@Charlou - "Maybe you should not assume dictatorship of this thread"???? I didnt even know it was a POSSIBILTY. Besides, I DID say at the outset that this was YOUR thread. You started it. I didnt think it would go anywhere but maybe it does have legs.

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Re: "Satan doesnt want people talking about God."

Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Fri Aug 13, 2010 4:08 am

Lion IRC wrote:
Feck wrote: And Lion I left this thread because there wasn't much else to say ,it didn't need anymore input from me (or anyone really) but if you are going to tout my name like me not being interested in your brand of cheap vomit inducing cider is some sort of victory then more fool you .
" I left this thread"???

.....or so I thought

Welcome back. BTW - what does "tout" mean? I would hate to accidentally do something I didnt realise.

@MrFungus420 - I would not have believed this thread would make 4 pages. Clearly, I dont have any powers of precognition when it comes to the willingness of atheists to engage in theology debates. All to often the debate goes on for hours and hours and THEN the atheist says...."theres no God - so I win"
Now youre asking me to answer your "point". You ALREADY made your POINT>
"I do not believe in your god. I do not believe in the stories in your Bible. That means that I cannot take the Biblical descriptions of Hell literally because I do not believe that it is a literal place." Game over - thanks for playing. Say hi to Feck when you see him.


@Charlou - "Maybe you should not assume dictatorship of this thread"???? I didnt even know it was a POSSIBILTY. Besides, I DID say at the outset that this was YOUR thread. You started it. I didnt think it would go anywhere but maybe it does have legs.
It didn't have legs but it looks like it evolved some - fancy that! :hehe:
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Re: "Satan doesnt want people talking about God."

Post by Tigger » Fri Aug 13, 2010 7:58 am

What does the IRC stand for? I have some ideas, but ...
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Re: "Satan doesnt want people talking about God."

Post by MrFungus420 » Fri Aug 13, 2010 6:55 pm

Lion IRC wrote:@MrFungus420 - I would not have believed this thread would make 4 pages. Clearly, I dont have any powers of precognition when it comes to the willingness of atheists to engage in theology debates. All to often the debate goes on for hours and hours and THEN the atheist says...."theres no God - so I win"
Where have I done that? Could this possibly be a hasty generalization?
Lion IRC wrote:Now youre asking me to answer your "point". You ALREADY made your POINT>
I have made several points about the inconsistencies of Christianity and of God's supposed traits vs his actions according to the bible.
Lion IRC wrote: "I do not believe in your god. I do not believe in the stories in your Bible. That means that I cannot take the Biblical descriptions of Hell literally because I do not believe that it is a literal place."
That was an answer to your specific question about my taking the Biblical description of Hell literally.
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Still leaving unanswered the point about inflicting an infinite punishment for a finite offense (including simply not loving God).

And the point that the reason that I do not believe in God is because there is no evidence to cause me to believe it. And its corollary that since God knows that there are people who cannot believe without evidence, he is condemning them to eternal punishment by not supplying them the requisite evidence.
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Re: "Satan doesnt want people talking about God."

Post by Azathoth » Fri Aug 13, 2010 7:06 pm

Tigger wrote:What does the IRC stand for? I have some ideas, but ...
irrational random christian?
Outside the ordered universe is that amorphous blight of nethermost confusion which blasphemes and bubbles at the center of all infinity—the boundless daemon sultan Azathoth, whose name no lips dare speak aloud, and who gnaws hungrily in inconceivable, unlighted chambers beyond time and space amidst the muffled, maddening beating of vile drums and the thin monotonous whine of accursed flutes.

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Re: "Satan doesnt want people talking about God."

Post by Lion IRC » Fri Aug 13, 2010 7:25 pm

Hi MrFungus420,
Thanks for helping to keep the thread alive. :td:
I am only half awake so I cant manage the quote function as well as you.
Please consider my comments in bold red
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MrFungus420 wrote:
Lion IRC wrote:@MrFungus420 - I would not have believed this thread would make 4 pages. Clearly, I dont have any powers of precognition when it comes to the willingness of atheists to engage in theology debates. All to often the debate goes on for hours and hours and THEN the atheist says...."theres no God - so I win"
Where have I done that? Could this possibly be a hasty generalization?

No - just a comment about people who say 1. Theres no God and 2. I hate him. This thread is about a theological proposition. Whats the value in a contribution which says "theres no God, theres no satan"? If you think that, go visit the "Satan doesnt exist thread" This is the "What would satan do" thread.
Lion IRC wrote:Now youre asking me to answer your "point". You ALREADY made your POINT>
I have made several points about the inconsistencies of Christianity and of God's supposed traits vs his actions according to the bible.
Lion IRC wrote: "I do not believe in your god. I do not believe in the stories in your Bible. That means that I cannot take the Biblical descriptions of Hell literally because I do not believe that it is a literal place."
Lion IRC did NOT write...."I do not believe in your god. I do not believe in the stories in your Bible. That means that..." Maybe we both have trouble with the quote function.

That was an answer to your specific question about my taking the Biblical description of Hell literally.
Lion IRC wrote:Game over - thanks for playing.
Still leaving unanswered the point about inflicting an infinite punishment for a finite offense (including simply not loving God).

Once again, this is the WWSD thread. I would love to debate the hell/punishment thing with you but I must ask you...whats the point if you are going to end up saying..."oh well theres no God anyway so you lose"

And the point that the reason that I do not believe in God is because there is no evidence to cause me to believe it.

And the point that, the reason that, I do not believe that, is because nothing that, causes me to believe that....err...um...I lost my train of thought....what?

And its corollary that since God knows that there are people who cannot believe without evidence, he is condemning them to eternal punishment by not supplying them the requisite evidence.

I must argue the opposite of this claim. Sorry.
A) I assert that there IS evidence
B) God knows that, given free will, there are some humans who will NOT accept a "celestial dictatorship" even WITH evidence.
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Re: "Satan doesnt want people talking about God."

Post by Jay G » Fri Aug 13, 2010 7:26 pm

I know I shouldn't do this and I will get yelled at again, BUT:

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Re: "Satan doesnt want people talking about God."

Post by Azathoth » Fri Aug 13, 2010 7:27 pm

If Jesus wandered across the atlantic to Iceland tomorrow I would definitely be looking at what the cloven hoofed one was offering. He is much more honest and significantly less bloodthirsty.
Outside the ordered universe is that amorphous blight of nethermost confusion which blasphemes and bubbles at the center of all infinity—the boundless daemon sultan Azathoth, whose name no lips dare speak aloud, and who gnaws hungrily in inconceivable, unlighted chambers beyond time and space amidst the muffled, maddening beating of vile drums and the thin monotonous whine of accursed flutes.

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