Marriage and Atheism

[Feck]

Once it stopping being legal to beat a disobedient wife there doesn't seem any point shackling your self with one .

[Bella Fortuna]

Once it stopping being legal to beat a disobedient wife there doesn't seem any point shackling your self with one .

You just wait til I see you next.

[maiforpeace]

Once it stopping being legal to beat a disobedient wife there doesn't seem any point shackling your self with one .

So now you are just left with beating your meat.

[pcCoder]

As far as a prenuptial, in some states they expire after so many years or after the first child is born.

[Surendra Darathy]

Once it stopping being legal to beat a disobedient wife there doesn't seem any point shackling your self with one .

Yes. That set of fur-lined handcuffs always did get much in the way of my properly wielding the riding crop.

One day, I finally got fed up and said to her, "Why don't we just switch?"

[Midget]

After a mild argument, which could possibly be defined as a fight, I discovered that some non religious women still want to get married.

As a life long atheist (parents are agnostic, so never got indoctrinated in the first place) I've never actually considered getting married and considered it a thing that religious people did. I'm all for monogamous relationships, but never considered that a piece of paper issued by a church would make any difference.

Where do the rest of you stand on this?

MOD NOTE: Merged with a similar thread.

[Animavore]

Personally I don't see the point in it and really would rather not.

[Thinking Aloud]

Have a look at this thread for starters.

[MrFungus420]

After a mild argument, which could possibly be defined as a fight, I discovered that some non religious women still want to get married.

As a life long atheist (parents are agnostic, so never got indoctrinated in the first place) I've never actually considered getting married and considered it a thing that religious people did. I'm all for monogamous relationships, but never considered that a piece of paper issued by a church would make any difference.

Where do the rest of you stand on this?

It's not issued by the church, it's issued by the government.

It gives legal rights to the spouse (such as being able to make medical decisions if the spouse is incapable of doing so).

Marriage is an agreement between people that is given legal recognition by the government.

[Theophilus]

It's not issued by the church, it's issued by the government. It gives legal rights to the spouse (such as being able to make medical decisions if the spouse is incapable of doing so). Marriage is an agreement between people that is given legal recognition by the government.

Just for info, marriages may also have a legal status within the church in addition to the state. For example, marriage in the Catholic church is covered by the Code of Canon Law, which is international law covering members of the Catholic church. The only time people are likely to be impacted by this is they wish to remarry in the Catholic church, as the church (as Henry VIII knew all too well) must pronounce the first marriage void before a second marriage is allowed. The Code of Canon Law would also impact in a few other ways, such as two non-Christians cannot marry in the Catholic church (I can't I imagine they'd want to anyway!) and same-sex marriages are obviously not considered licit or valid in the Catholic church. Of course none of the above applies to non-Catholics, so it is a legal aside that only covers Catholics.

[Feck]

If there are legal rights that couples can bestow on each other only by marriage then a civil ceremony I can see the point in ...... If a gesture of a solemn commitment to each other helps to cement a relationship then a "marriage" is maybe not a terrible thing ......


but ..... the white dress church before god thing MEH .

[Tigger]

I got married in a church because my fiancée's dad wanted us to. I had no issue with it once it happened, and it was rather pleasant (retrospectively, for the atheist in me bridled a bit at being "forced" into it at the time). I'd rather that than the only alternative at the time, which was a dry old registry office in a scrotey shopping centre.

My wife and I have a theory: the longer the marriage lasts, the less flamboyant the wedding ceremony perhaps was. For us it was the actual "being married", rather than the ceremony that was important.. I can't understand how people can spend so much money on one day.

[Theophilus]

I can't understand how people can spend so much money on one day.

I know. Just think how much beer and crisps you could stock up in the garage for what most people pay for a wedding. Perhaps put in one box of Roses as well for the new wife.

[pcCoder]

Marriage is an agreement between people that is given legal recognition by the government.

Normally when one considers an agreement to be one between people, they would have in mind that the terms of that agreement are decided by those who it is between. The terms of the marriage are decided for you. Most other contracts, the involved parties are the ones choosing the terms and conditions, but if one gets married, ultimately the terms and conditions are not up to you but are already decided for you and change without consent of the involved parties. People who want relationships and marriages have different ideas of what they want out of it, but society seems to have a one-size-fits-all dynamic contract for them. Dynamic in the sense that it can change over the course of time without them knowing/consenting to the changes and that they probably don't even know what they are 'agreeing' to when they do get married.

[JimC]

I can't understand how people can spend so much money on one day.

I know. Just think how much beer and crisps you could stock up in the garage for what most people pay for a wedding. Perhaps put in one box of Roses as well for the new wife.

Nice cynical streak showing, Theo - gets the JimC nod of approval!

But anyway, 26 years ago, my wife's parents paid for the whole shebang, and my wife organised it all, I only had to show up on the day at the church...

Too easy!