Scientific Proof Of God

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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by Forty Two » Tue Feb 27, 2018 3:50 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:
Rum wrote:
Scot Dutchy wrote:
Rum wrote:However let us not forget that whatever NK accused America of in terms of propaganda it does to its own population tenfold.
Try again:

However let us not forget that whatever America accused NK of in terms of propaganda it does to its own population tenfold.

More like it.
Simply not the case. You can say what you like more or less in America. If you step out of line in NK your life is at risk. I find the automatic knee jerk 'everything American is terrible' approach lazy and often inaccurate.
You were talking about propaganda or as Americans call it "false news". NK is not the only country to use it. Trump has lied since he has been in power. He never tells the straight truth. Is that any different to NK?
Well tell me what is better in America than Europe? Look at OECD data.
O.k., let's look at the OECD data: http://www.oecdbetterlifeindex.org/coun ... ed-states/
The United States performs very well in many measures of well-being relative to most other countries in the Better Life Index. The United States ranks at the top in housing, and income and wealth. They rank above the average in health status, jobs and earnings, education and skills, personal security, subjective well-being, environmental quality, and civic engagement. They rank below average in work-life balance and social connections...the average household net-adjusted disposable income per capita is USD 44 049 a year, much higher than the OECD average of USD 30 563 a year, and the highest figure in the OECD...
In terms of employment, 69% of people aged 15 to 64 in the United States have a paid job, above the OECD employment average of 67%. Some 75% of men are in paid work, compared with 64% of women. In the United States, some 11% of employees work very long hours, less than the OECD average of 13%, with almost 16% of men working very long hours compared with 7% of women.
Good education and skills are important requisites for finding a job. In the United States, 90% of adults aged 25-64 have completed upper secondary education, much higher than the OECD average of 74%. This is slightly truer of women than men, as 89% of men have successfully completed high-school compared with 91% of women. In terms of the quality of the educational system, the average student scored 488 in reading literacy, maths and science in the OECD's Programme for International Student Assessment (PISA), slightly higher than the OECD average of 486. On average in the United States, girls outperformed boys by 1 points, slightly less than the average OECD gap of 2 points.
In general, Americans are more satisfied with their lives than the OECD average. When asked to rate their general satisfaction with life on a scale from 0 to 10, people in the United States gave it a 6.9 grade on average, higher than the OECD average of 6.5.
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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by JimC » Tue Feb 27, 2018 8:50 pm

Rum wrote:The Cambridge Dictionary defines Propaganda as:

"information, ideas, opinions, or images, often only giving one part of an argument, that are broadcast, published, or in some other way spread with the intention of influencing people's opinions"

What Trump does is lie. What the American media do is broadly try to tell the story as they see it - usually from a certain political perspective - and there are multiple perspectives (other than a Marxist one I guess). You can take your pick which you choose.

What NK does is have a party line. Their propaganda supports it and distorts the truth in support of its own system and to criticise the USA's system. You don't have a choice there. If you don't swallow the party line and you let it be known you are in for a long term in a labour camp or worse.

I wasn't comparing the USA to Europe - so I'm not going there. That's been chewed over many a time here. They are different and some shit is better in one and other shit better in the other!
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There is enough to criticise legitimately about the current state of the USA without making a false equivalence to a totalitarian hellhole...
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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by pErvinalia » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:02 am

Well it is full of secret Marxists...
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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by Scot Dutchy » Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:10 am

JimC wrote:
There is enough to criticise legitimately about the current state of the USA without making a false equivalence to a totalitarian hellhole...
You have proof it is a totalitarian hell hole. Worse than other Asian countries?
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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by Rum » Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:53 am

I suppose the Dutch, being pretty used to being regimented and conformist can't quite see the bleedin' obvious when it comes to totalitarianism.

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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by Svartalf » Wed Feb 28, 2018 10:54 am

pErvinalia wrote:They're not Depeche Mode videos. :think:
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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by Scot Dutchy » Wed Feb 28, 2018 11:09 am

Rum wrote:I suppose the Dutch, being pretty used to being regimented and conformist can't quite see the bleedin' obvious when it comes to totalitarianism.
You really dont have a clue do you? This country conformist? :funny: :funny: :funny: :funny: :funny: :smoke: :smoke:
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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by Rum » Wed Feb 28, 2018 5:40 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:
Rum wrote:I suppose the Dutch, being pretty used to being regimented and conformist can't quite see the bleedin' obvious when it comes to totalitarianism.
You really dont have a clue do you? This country conformist? :funny: :funny: :funny: :funny: :funny: :smoke: :smoke:
I was winding you up. It is so very easy. :tup:

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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by superuniverse » Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:38 am

Really enjoy this video on VENGEANCE... The return of the repressed and the oppressed...



Directed by Patrick Daughters

Not an Anton Corbijn but close...


don't worry, we will be throwing in the occasional d.m. video as the discussion progresses....

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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by pErvinalia » Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:29 am

"Discussion"? I thought it was just you proselytising..
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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by Scot Dutchy » Thu Mar 01, 2018 10:00 am

Rum wrote:
Scot Dutchy wrote:
Rum wrote:I suppose the Dutch, being pretty used to being regimented and conformist can't quite see the bleedin' obvious when it comes to totalitarianism.
You really dont have a clue do you? This country conformist? :funny: :funny: :funny: :funny: :funny: :smoke: :smoke:
I was winding you up. It is so very easy. :tup:
So are Oz men. :biggrin:
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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by Rum » Sat Mar 03, 2018 9:53 pm

This guy is really quite annoying but he knows his stuff. Perhaps I shouldn't provoke someone with a fragile mind but sometimes one simply has to challenge utter nonsense.


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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by laklak » Sat Mar 03, 2018 10:22 pm

Have we got to the sciencey bit yet? I'm waiting for the sciencey bit.
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by Brian Peacock » Sat Mar 03, 2018 10:42 pm

The sciencey bit is right there in front of you. You just have to believe and the sciencey bit will be revealed to you.
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