Scientific Proof Of God

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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

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They're not Depeche Mode videos. :think:
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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by JimC » Tue Feb 27, 2018 5:03 am

I want superuniverse and galaxian in the same crazed thread, and I want it now! :lay:
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:lol: I was thinking the same thing.
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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by Scot Dutchy » Tue Feb 27, 2018 10:22 am

Rum wrote:However let us not forget that whatever NK accused America of in terms of propaganda it does to its own population tenfold.
Try again:

However let us not forget that whatever America accused NK of in terms of propaganda it does to its own population tenfold.

More like it.
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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by Alan B » Tue Feb 27, 2018 12:03 pm

'Proof' of God'?

Try this Superuniverse:

What you must do now is to prove (or show evidence of) the existence of an interface between a non-physical God and a physical universe (or even a physical human being will do). You must then describe the precise nature of the interface, how it is implemented, what 'connections' are used and the translation 'mechanism' across the interface. Bearing in mind, of course, that one side of the interface must be entirely non-physical such that no physical measuring device can detect its presence and that the other side must exist solely in the physical universe.

Try doing this without referring to human originated 'Ancient Texts' (or any other texts).
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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by Rum » Tue Feb 27, 2018 12:03 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:
Rum wrote:However let us not forget that whatever NK accused America of in terms of propaganda it does to its own population tenfold.
Try again:

However let us not forget that whatever America accused NK of in terms of propaganda it does to its own population tenfold.

More like it.
Simply not the case. You can say what you like more or less in America. If you step out of line in NK your life is at risk. I find the automatic knee jerk 'everything American is terrible' approach lazy and often inaccurate.

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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by Scot Dutchy » Tue Feb 27, 2018 12:13 pm

Rum wrote:
Scot Dutchy wrote:
Rum wrote:However let us not forget that whatever NK accused America of in terms of propaganda it does to its own population tenfold.
Try again:

However let us not forget that whatever America accused NK of in terms of propaganda it does to its own population tenfold.

More like it.
Simply not the case. You can say what you like more or less in America. If you step out of line in NK your life is at risk. I find the automatic knee jerk 'everything American is terrible' approach lazy and often inaccurate.
You were talking about propaganda or as Americans call it "false news". NK is not the only country to use it. Trump has lied since he has been in power. He never tells the straight truth. Is that any different to NK?
Well tell me what is better in America than Europe? Look at OECD data.
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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by Rum » Tue Feb 27, 2018 12:38 pm

The Cambridge Dictionary defines Propaganda as:

"information, ideas, opinions, or images, often only giving one part of an argument, that are broadcast, published, or in some other way spread with the intention of influencing people's opinions"

What Trump does is lie. What the American media do is broadly try to tell the story as they see it - usually from a certain political perspective - and there are multiple perspectives (other than a Marxist one I guess). You can take your pick which you choose.

What NK does is have a party line. Their propaganda supports it and distorts the truth in support of its own system and to criticise the USA's system. You don't have a choice there. If you don't swallow the party line and you let it be known you are in for a long term in a labour camp or worse.

I wasn't comparing the USA to Europe - so I'm not going there. That's been chewed over many a time here. They are different and some shit is better in one and other shit better in the other!

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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by Scot Dutchy » Tue Feb 27, 2018 1:26 pm

And nothing is distorted in the American press. No fake news? Come on it is as bad as any marxist system. You dont end up in a labour camp but you may end up dead.
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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by Rum » Tue Feb 27, 2018 1:37 pm

I can see you are in a grumpy mood today so I'm not going to argue any more about this. But if you think NK and American have an equivalence then you are simply wrong.

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Post by pErvinalia » Tue Feb 27, 2018 1:59 pm

Dutch propaganda is the best propaganda.
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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by Scot Dutchy » Tue Feb 27, 2018 3:09 pm

Rum wrote:I can see you are in a grumpy mood today so I'm not going to argue any more about this. But if you think NK and American have an equivalence then you are simply wrong.
It is like the cold war days. Everything communist was bad and everything American was good which was simply never true. Do you think America is such a wonderful country for the majority of its citizens? If you do you are believing America propaganda.
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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by Forty Two » Tue Feb 27, 2018 3:40 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:
Rum wrote:I can see you are in a grumpy mood today so I'm not going to argue any more about this. But if you think NK and American have an equivalence then you are simply wrong.
It is like the cold war days. Everything communist was bad and everything American was good which was simply never true. Do you think America is such a wonderful country for the majority of its citizens? If you do you are believing America propaganda.
America is a wonderful country for the majority of its citizens. Not all, but certainly a majority, and well past a majority. This does not mean that the US is without fault - there are plenty. However, the US is a place where millions of people struggle to get to. It's not because it's worse here, that's for sure.
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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by Forty Two » Tue Feb 27, 2018 3:43 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:And nothing is distorted in the American press. No fake news? Come on it is as bad as any marxist system. You dont end up in a labour camp but you may end up dead.
Plenty is distorted in the American, and European, presses. Of course there is fake news. A free press is inevitably going to have fake news.

The US is as bad as a Marxist system? That's a tad absurd. Examples of Marxist systems are what? Soviet Union? Cuba? cold war Poland? cold war East Germany? Really? The US is "as bad" as a Marxist system?
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