Blasphemy

[pErvinalia]

It's also not very coherent in the context of his alleged ideology of a natural right to life.

Any right can be forfeited by bad behavior.

But for someone who thinks so strongly that there is a "right" to life, you are sure quick to throw that away when you stumble across someone you don't like.

I don't like those who initiate force or fraud against others. You got a problem with that?

Thank fuck the adults are in charge of the justice system and allow for proper procedure and the right of appeal against the STATE, no less, and not your libbo mates.

Evil exists. Evil must be destroyed. Don't be evil and you have nothing to fear.

As I've maintained for years, you're not a libertarian at all. That much is obvious.

[Svartalf]

Who knows what evil lies in the heart of men?

The Shadow Seth knows...

Womminz, they be aboot kenning it a'

[Seth]

Who knows what evil lies in the heart of men?

The Shadow Seth knows...

I don't know what's in people's hearts, nor their minds, nor do I care. I only care about what they do to other people.

[Seth]

As I've maintained for years, you're not a libertarian at all. That much is obvious.

What part of Libertarianism is it that you think sanctions or tolerates evil?

[pErvinalia]

Libertarianism says nothing at all about "evil" as it isn't a religion, doofus. Libertarianism concerns issues of personal freedom and how that interplays with the State. And you backing the State over a freshly guilty person shows quite clearly that you don't give a fuck about the principles of libertarianism. You give a fuck about your own personal beliefs and biases.

[Seth]

Libertarianism says nothing at all about "evil" as it isn't a religion, doofus.

Wrong. The initiation of force or fraud is evil.

Libertarianism concerns issues of personal freedom and how that interplays with the State.

Incomplete. It mostly concerns personal freedom and how individuals interact with one another. Control of the state's position in society is secondary to the relationships between individuals and their respect for the "no force or fraud" rule.

And you backing the State over a freshly guilty person shows quite clearly that you don't give a fuck about the principles of libertarianism.

You know fuck-all about Libertarianism.

[pErvinalia]

Libertarianism says nothing at all about "evil" as it isn't a religion, doofus.

Wrong. The initiation of force or fraud is evil.

Um not wrong. "Evil" is a religious concept. You describing force or fraud as "evil" means exactly squat to the actual ideology of libertarianism.

And you backing the State over a freshly guilty person shows quite clearly that you don't give a fuck about the principles of libertarianism.

You know fuck-all about Libertarianism.

You expressly backed the State over the individual. That's the very antithesis of libertarianism. Stop with the hoax. You aren't a libbo. You are Randian selfish. Given libertarianism is an inherently selfish ideology, it's not surprising that parts of it overlap with your own beliefs. But you are definitely not a libertarian.

[Seth]

Libertarianism says nothing at all about "evil" as it isn't a religion, doofus.

Wrong. The initiation of force or fraud is evil.

Um not wrong. "Evil" is a religious concept. You describing force or fraud as "evil" means exactly squat to the actual ideology of libertarianism.

Since when is "evil" exclusively a religious concept?

[pErvinalia]

It doesn't matter, as libertarianism says nothing at all about evil. It's about individual rights. Quote me anything from a libertarian scholar that talks about "evil" and the need to "destroy" it. It might not be an exclusively religious concept, but in that phrasing it is VERY religious. Libertarianism isn't about "destroying" anything. It's about enabling individual freedom.

[Seth]

It doesn't matter, as libertarianism says nothing at all about evil. It's about individual rights. Quote me anything from a libertarian scholar that talks about "evil" and the need to "destroy" it. It might not be an exclusively religious concept, but in that phrasing it is VERY religious. Libertarianism isn't about "destroying" anything. It's about enabling individual freedom.

Libertarianism specifically authorizes the use of force in self defense. You can pettifog about your preferred interpretation of "evil" all you like, but Libertarianism has no compunctions about allowing the individual to resist or destroy evil when and where it occurs. Initiating force or fraud is evil and therefore may be resisted or destroyed as necessary.

[pErvinalia]

You can pettifog as much as you like, but you've backed the STATE over individual rights in this case. THAT is by definition not libertarianism.

[JimC]

You can pettifog as much as you like, but you've backed the STATE over individual rights in this case. THAT is by definition not libertarianism.

I think an interesting dilemma for US libertarians would be their opinions of Snowden and his actions in exposing the Big Brother actions of the US government...

As conservatives, they would brand him a traitor, but as libertarians they should surely applaud his actions...

[pErvinalia]

Oh dear, you are going to precipitate a wall of bollocks from Seth now!

[JimC]

Oh dear, you are going to precipitate a wall of bollocks from Seth now!

You should do a post on that "in the voice of Seth", guessing what he would say...

[Sean Hayden]

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