Scientific Proof Of God

[NineBerry]

"More of a butcher than a King" isn't French

[superuniverse]

"More of a butcher than a King" isn't French

But the rest is...

[NineBerry]

This type of English language didn't even exist back then.

[superuniverse]

Wrong.

[superuniverse]

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Plus Macelin que roy en Angleterre,

Lieu obscure nay par force aura l'empire:

Lasche sans foy sans loy saignera terre,

Son temps s'approche si presque je soupir

[superuniverse]

Let's translate this all important quatrain together...

VIII, 76

[superuniverse]

[superuniverse]

now remember we are dealing with the INEVITABLE...

[JimC]

Scot and superuniverse, you both need to consider this a serious warning. The tone of this thread has been becoming more and more problematic. Threats and insults are not what we want to see in this forum. If either or both of you continue in your current vein, a suspension will occur.

[Hermit]

...no one ever translated into English the quatrain that starts "More of a butcher than a King..."

Your Google-fu isn't up to scratch. It took me a couple of minutes to find this.

From there I got to this page. It would appear that Theophilus de Garencières (1610–1680), was the first to translate Nostradamus into English, apparently in 1672. He also added his interpretations of what each of Nostradamus's quatrains prophesied. So, to LXXVI:

LXXVI.

French.

Plus Macelin que Roy en Angleterre,
Lieu obscur ne par force aura l'Empire,
Lasche, sans foy, fans loy, seignera Terre,
Son temps s'aproche si presque je souspire.

English.

More Macelin then King in England,
Born in obscure place, by force shall reign,
Of loose disposition, without faith, without Law, the ground shall bleed,
His time is drawing so near that I sight for it.

ANNOT.

Macelin, is a Butcher or cruel man, from the Latine word Macellum, which signifieth the Shambles, it is without contradiction that by this Prophecy is plain concerning the late tyrant Cromwel, and his unlawful Government.

For my amusement I looked at Theophilus de Garencières' take on quatrain LXVI next. It's one of Dennis' favourites, supposedly dealing with Depeche Mode's visit to the World Trade Centre.

LXVI.

French.

Quand l'Escriture D. M. trouvée,
Et Cave antique a Lampe descouverte,
Loy, Roy, & Prince Vlpian esprouvée,
Pavillon, Royne & Duc soubs la couverte.

English.

When the writing D. M. shall be found,
And an ancient Cave discovered with a Lamp,
Law, King, and Prince Ulpian tried,
Tent, Queen and Duke under the rugge.

ANNOT.

In the year 1555. Ferdinand Alvaro of Toledo Duke of Alba, being sent by Charles the V. into Italy to resist the French, arrived in June at Milan, and having gathered together, all his Forces, Besieged the Town St. Jago, but Henry II. King of France sending some succours by the Duke of Aumale, he raised up his siege, and put his Army into Garrisons. The Duke of Alba leaving the Field in this manner, the Duke of Aumale besieged Vulpian, wherein were 1000. souldiers in Garrison, under the command of Caesar of Naples, besides the Inhabitants. Never was a place so suriously assaulted, and so manfully defended, so that the French were many times beaten back; but at last after 24 days siege the Duke of Aumale did gloriously take it.

The Author foretelling the time of this victory, said it was when the writing D M. in big letters was found, that is to say, about the II. of September after the Equinox, because in the Ephemerides, the Meridional descension of the Planets, and chiefly of Sol, Venus, and Mercury is marked with these two Letters D. M. which descension cometh to pass after the Equinox of Autumn towards the end of September. At the same time was discovered an ancient Cave, wherein was found one of those Lamps, that cannot be put out, and burns continually without any addition of Oil, by an invention that is lost. Such another was found in the time of Alexander the VI. and Adrian the VI.

The Town of Vulpian was at that time tried by a King and a Prince, viz. Henry the II. and the Duke of Aumale Prince of Lorrain, and Brother to the Cardinal of Lorrain, and to the Duke of Guise.

The Author addeth, that besides these three things, viz. the finding of the letters D. M. The Cave discovered the siege of Vulpian; there happened a fourth one, viz. that a Queen and a Duke should consult together in a Summer-house, about the important affairs of the Kingdom. To understand this, we must suppose that Pope Paul the IV. willing to secure his own person and the Ecclesiastical State against the Spanish faction, and that of the Colonese, did seize upon many places belonging to the said Colonese, and knowing besides that the Spaniards being of the Coloneses party, would not fail to come upon him, he disposed the King of France to come to his succours, so that the Queen having a particular confidence in the Duke of Guise, did consult with him about this business in some Summer-house, which the French call a Pavillon,

Funny how interpreters only ever point to supposedly correctly prophetised events after they happened. Nobody claimed Nostradamus predicted that the WTC towers would collapse before they actually did.

[superuniverse]

...no one ever translated into English the quatrain that starts "More of a butcher than a King..."

Your Google-fu isn't up to scratch. It took me a couple of minutes to find this.

From there I got to [url=https:[yt][/yt]//quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo2/A52521.0001.001/1:13?rgn=div1;view=fulltext]this page[/url]. It would appear that Theophilus de Garencières (1610–1680), was the first to translate Nostradamus into English, apparently in 1672. He also added his interpretations of what each of Nostradamus's quatrains prophesied. So, to LXXVI:

LXXVI.

French.

Plus Macelin que Roy en Angleterre,
Lieu obscur ne par force aura l'Empire,
Lasche, sans foy, fans loy, seignera Terre,
Son temps s'aproche si presque je souspire.

English.

More Macelin then King in England,
Born in obscure place, by force shall reign,
Of loose disposition, without faith, without Law, the ground shall bleed,
His time is drawing so near that I sight for it.

ANNOT.

Macelin, is a Butcher or cruel man, from the Latine word Macellum, which signifieth the Shambles, it is without contradiction that by this Prophecy is plain concerning the late tyrant Cromwel, and his unlawful Government.

For my amusement I looked at Theophilus de Garencières' take on quatrain LXVI next. It's one of Dennis' favourites, supposedly dealing with Depeche Mode's visit to the World Trade Centre.

LXVI.

French.

Quand l'Escriture D. M. trouvée,
Et Cave antique a Lampe descouverte,
Loy, Roy, & Prince Vlpian esprouvée,
Pavillon, Royne & Duc soubs la couverte.

English.

When the writing D. M. shall be found,
And an ancient Cave discovered with a Lamp,
Law, King, and Prince Ulpian tried,
Tent, Queen and Duke under the rugge.

ANNOT.

In the year 1555. Ferdinand Alvaro of Toledo Duke of Alba, being sent by Charles the V. into Italy to resist the French, arrived in June at Milan, and having gathered together, all his Forces, Besieged the Town St. Jago, but Henry II. King of France sending some succours by the Duke of Aumale, he raised up his siege, and put his Army into Garrisons. The Duke of Alba leaving the Field in this manner, the Duke of Aumale besieged Vulpian, wherein were 1000. souldiers in Garrison, under the command of Caesar of Naples, besides the Inhabitants. Never was a place so suriously assaulted, and so manfully defended, so that the French were many times beaten back; but at last after 24 days siege the Duke of Aumale did gloriously take it.

The Author foretelling the time of this victory, said it was when the writing D M. in big letters was found, that is to say, about the II. of September after the Equinox, because in the Ephemerides, the Meridional descension of the Planets, and chiefly of Sol, Venus, and Mercury is marked with these two Letters D. M. which descension cometh to pass after the Equinox of Autumn towards the end of September. At the same time was discovered an ancient Cave, wherein was found one of those Lamps, that cannot be put out, and burns continually without any addition of Oil, by an invention that is lost. Such another was found in the time of Alexander the VI. and Adrian the VI.

The Town of Vulpian was at that time tried by a King and a Prince, viz. Henry the II. and the Duke of Aumale Prince of Lorrain, and Brother to the Cardinal of Lorrain, and to the Duke of Guise.

The Author addeth, that besides these three things, viz. the finding of the letters D. M. The Cave discovered the siege of Vulpian; there happened a fourth one, viz. that a Queen and a Duke should consult together in a Summer-house, about the important affairs of the Kingdom. To understand this, we must suppose that Pope Paul the IV. willing to secure his own person and the Ecclesiastical State against the Spanish faction, and that of the Colonese, did seize upon many places belonging to the said Colonese, and knowing besides that the Spaniards being of the Coloneses party, would not fail to come upon him, he disposed the King of France to come to his succours, so that the Queen having a particular confidence in the Duke of Guise, did consult with him about this business in some Summer-house, which the French call a Pavillon,

Funny how interpreters only ever point to supposedly correctly prophetised events after they happened. Nobody claimed Nostradamus predicted that the WTC towers would collapse before they actually did.

Except that the towers are standing
You do have a broken brain, Hermit...


THE GREAT KING OF TERROR:






The Prophecies of Nostradamus: Century VIII, Quatrain 66 {Benoist Rigaud edition de 1568}


Quand l’escriture D.M.trouuee,
Et caue antique lampe descouuerte,
Loy, Roy,& Prince Vlpian esprouuee,
Pauillon Royne & Duc sous la couuerte.

When the inscription D.M. is found
in the ancient cave, revealed by a lamp.
Law, the King and Prince Ulpian tried,
the Queen and Duke in the pavilion under cover.


The D.M. stands for Depeche Mode. They are singing “ENJOY THE SILENCE” on TOP of the WORLD TRADE CENTER.

https://youtu.be/X0Hez25fFrg (Depeche Mode singing Enjoy the Silence on top of the World Trade Center Video)

See how the “DOUBLE” reveals the true nature of things.

Note: They are singing *ABOUT* the “King of Terror”

https://youtu.be/m0AKJMGxwpE (Original Enjoy the Silence Video by Depeche Mode)

See how we use a QUATRAIN TO PREDICT THE FUTURE. Notice the *DATE*.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic ... HwNXXyYZZM (Prediction of WTC event in 2000)

[superuniverse]

Funny how atheists are completely blind to anything that contradicts their delusion...

[NineBerry]

You didn't predict anything. You just posted that texts. There is no mention of skyscrapers, planes, anything in there.

Also, where is the lamp, the cave? What about Prince Ulpian and pavilons under cover?

[superuniverse]

You didn't predict anything. You just posted that texts. There is no mention of skyscrapers, planes, anything in there.

Also, where is the lamp, the cave? What about Prince Ulpian and pavilons under cover?

The lamp is the thing you are staring at, idiot...


Wtc and you guys. A small sacrifice to pay.

[superuniverse]

Nine,

Since you have a broken brain as well...


Was this quatrain revealed before or after the event?



https://groups.google.com/g/alt.music.d ... HwNXXyYZZM