So you really cannot leave the Catholic church - WTF?!?!?!!

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Re: So you really cannot leave the Catholic church - WTF?!?!

Post by kiki5711 » Tue Aug 24, 2010 8:00 pm

leo-rcc wrote:
kiki5711 wrote:what's the big deal if they keep your name in their records? does it affect your life somehow? just sayin?
The list counts as a membership, and the church gets subsidized based on the size of their congregation. This is tax money, so I want to minimize the funding as much as I can.
ok, I understand. I didn't know it was like that.

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Post by Animavore » Tue Aug 24, 2010 8:03 pm

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kiki5711 wrote:what's the big deal if they keep your name in their records? does it affect your life somehow? just sayin?
It means that people can't go against your wishes and give you a Catholic burial, and it also means that when the Catholic church can't talk about representing all of Ireland any more.
ok, I see. But isn't it in your "will" how you desire to be "disposed"?
Does the church have legal power to burie you the way they want over what you specify in your will or your spouse?
Actually, no. Your family can just bury you as they please. There is no law enforcing it. At least this way the Church will actually refuse to give you a burial.
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Post by Svartalf » Tue Aug 24, 2010 8:11 pm

leo-rcc wrote:
kiki5711 wrote:what's the big deal if they keep your name in their records? does it affect your life somehow? just sayin?
The list counts as a membership, and the church gets subsidized based on the size of their congregation. This is tax money, so I want to minimize the funding as much as I can.
Funny-... The church I was baptized in is in a place where I never actually resided (it took place at my maternal grandparents' parish church, so we'd have a bigger celebration with the family, plus I don't think my parents actually went to church in our Canadian home).

I seriously don't think the church is subsidized depending on the baptism (or first communion/confirmation) records ... actually, you have to have interaction as an adult with your parish priest to be counted as a parishioner and the parish subsidized so you can go to mass reasonably close to home.
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Re: So you really cannot leave the Catholic church - WTF?!?!

Post by leo-rcc » Tue Aug 24, 2010 8:20 pm

Svartalf wrote: I seriously don't think the church is subsidized depending on the baptism (or first communion/confirmation) records ... actually, you have to have interaction as an adult with your parish priest to be counted as a parishioner and the parish subsidized so you can go to mass reasonably close to home.
It'a A National subsidy, not locally. The records are combined and kept with SILA (Stichting Interkerkelijke Ledenadministratie).
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Post by Svartalf » Tue Aug 24, 2010 8:34 pm

Doesn't make sense... an obscure church in rural France (or France as the national primate where it is located) would be subsidized for a Canadian kid who got baptized in the Old country for the sake of getting the family together?

Seriously, I got communion in Canada, and it's only the hazards of life that drove me to go to my ancestral homeland and spend most of my adult life in France...

Managing funding between countries, or parishes like that is incredibly ludicrous and inefficient... you'd expect a 1000+ year old institution to do better
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Post by Millefleur » Tue Aug 24, 2010 8:40 pm

Is it really that hard to leave? Can't you just do something horrific to get chucked out, like fiddle a kid? Oh, wait..
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Post by Feck » Tue Aug 24, 2010 10:16 pm

Animavore wrote:That reminds me... I still haven't sent that form.


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Post by beige » Tue Aug 24, 2010 10:21 pm

Millefleur wrote:Is it really that hard to leave? Can't you just do something horrific to get chucked out, like fiddle a kid? Oh, wait..
You could allow an abortion to take place where a nine year old child is raped by her step father? They get all pissy at that and excommunicate you.

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Post by owtth » Tue Aug 24, 2010 10:45 pm

Animavore wrote:In Ireland you get a letter off the Bishop and you have to go visit him in his mansion and he'll try talk you out of it.
Oh I'd love to give that a go, but I am far too lazy and living in another country. I'd bring the portrait my folks have at home of my dad's great uncle who was an archbishop (bearing an uncanny resemblance to Sir Humphrey from Yes MinisterImage) I've tried searching through Google Images but I can't find the fucker it'll have to wait until I can remember to take a pic when I'm at home next.
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Re: So you really cannot leave the Catholic church - WTF?!?!

Post by A Monkey Shaved » Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:39 pm

Easy, just halfway through sunday Mass look at the exit door and leave. :leave: Simple
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Post by owtth » Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:43 pm

A Monkey Shaved wrote:Easy, just halfway through sunday Mass look at the exit door and leave. :leave: Simple
Easier than than that, the fucker is hanging in my folks dining room. I don't have to set foot near an actual church, plus my Mom will be delighted that I am showing an interest in the more religious side of our clan.
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Post by fordo » Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:52 pm

i branded an inverted cross into my forehead, and pissed in the holy water, i havent been asked back strangely but every now an again some one refers to me as "a good catholic boy"lol, i just tell them to get fucked kindly and the topic isnt normally raised again..i never thought that they silly fuckers may still consider me one of theirs(shudder)

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Re: So you really cannot leave the Catholic church - WTF?!?!

Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Wed Aug 25, 2010 12:30 am

It's like spam - clicking on the "Please delete me from this mailing list" link simly confirms your email and ensures that they send you even more bollocks!
Animavore wrote:In Ireland you get a letter off the Bishop and you have to go visit him in his mansion and he'll try talk you out of it.
So just go there and bash the bishop. :tea:
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Re: So you really cannot leave the Catholic church - WTF?!?!

Post by A Monkey Shaved » Wed Aug 25, 2010 3:18 am

Sometimes they remind me of an ancient version of spam emailers, once they have your name on their baptisimal records list it is hard to delete your name from on it. But I still think I am no more Catholic than I am one of those so called "loyal" customers of some company that is frequently spamming my email.
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Post by Tero » Sun Aug 29, 2010 12:03 am

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