More Evidences for God

[FBM]

I've found it!! An image of our Divine Creator!!!

Trigger Warning!!!1! :

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[mandy]

What was it again...

1) Cheryl Cole is beautiful and shaggable.
2) The universe is beautiful and amazing.

Um.... I forget the rest.

Pappa no. i didnt say that. but i do know you wanna do cheryl. i dont. so listen to what i wrote. i didnt say universe is pretty and bendable. i said cherly is pretty. universe is just big. i said if you didnt create matter, neither did i, then we can say it was Allah who did the universe.

One of the attributes of that woman is that she could be said to be beautiful (Again though, this is a subjective opinion).

Beauty does not exist as something in and of itself. There must be something to exhibit the properties that we find beautiful. It is an adjective...it is a description.

Water pours down your back, not wet. One of the properties of water is wetness. When water gets on something, it imparts the property of wetness.

MrFungus420 mate, you are playing with words.

beauty exists and wetness exists. water is respoinsible for getting you wet and Allah is respeonsible for making you beautiful. cant you understand that simple thing mate.

Okay. So it's agreed that humans don't actually create anything. They just rearrange stuff that already exists.

Now, you have said that Allah created order and good. Those are not things that can be made by rearrangement. So that would be a true act of creation, something forever beyond the capabilities of humans. That would be an act of the type of creation that only a god could perform.

You also said that Iblis created chaos and evil. This would be an act of creation equal to that of Allah.

i dont get you mate. whats this equal business? if go and bomb the white house then i would be an evil person. although i created evil but that dont mean im equal to God.

You said that Allah created good and that Iblis created evil.

But, I should thank you for agreeing that Iblis's act of creation was equivalent to Allah's act of creation. Once again you have made Iblis a co-creator with Allah.

no, i said no such thing.

:I-love-pork:

[devogue]

Allah is respeonsible for making you beautiful

What? Is he an arse bandit?

[Razor]

mandelson "i said if you didnt create matter, neither did i, then we can say it was Allah who did the universe"

Is it possible to have more logic failures in one sentence?

[PsychoSerenity]

Ok, let's get the full picture in one post so you can't cut out the important bits.

I have asked on several occasions for you to present all of your 'evidences' as soon as possible.

Originaly here.
Repeated in this thread.
In response to your poor excuse for why it's taking so long.
And again here.

Between each of these posts you have posted at least once, and failed to present any more of your 'evidences'.

So here is your first excuse for why it's taking so long:

the other evidences are a big complicated. i have write them out on a piece of paper and type them out.

why? are you in a rush mate?

Quite frankly that's bollocks. The first two were five minutes work at most. If the others are so complicated and take so long to put together, why haven't you been working on them in the past month, rather than arguing about the first two, which are clearly not up to scratch?

I also asked you an important question:

What if the fifth 'evidence' is the one that finally convinces us all? How can you justify holding that back from us?

If you genuinely have evidence that can convince a large number of atheists that allah exists, surely this should be your top priority?

Qur'an 009.006 If one amongst the Pagans ask thee for asylum, grant it to him, so that he may hear the word of Allah; and then escort him to where he can be secure. That is because they are men without knowledge.

We don't want you to kill us (as in the verse before this one) and, according to your holy book, we are "men without knowledge", so please enlighten us.

However, your justification for holding back on us, then changed from "it's complicated and will take time" to a contradictory "if the first two won't convince you, then the others won't either". At least, that is what I think you were trying to say, here:

look mate, if you cant get to Allah through cheryl, then its not very likely you gonna get to him through a cow, are ya.

Do you mean to say that you have already presented your very best and most convincing evidence and arguments? Because if that's the case, since you've convinced nobody, you might as well give up trying.

its up to you chaps to decide which evidence for God is best which is second best. but if you atheists want me to stop giving you proofs for existence of God then just tell me.

And so we see your latest response. Which apparently goes back on your excuse again. And so I ask again:
How can you possibly justify holding back from us, evidence of allah?

Of course I have also, in each of my posts, hinted my scepticism of your intentions. I strongly suspect that you would much rather drag this out for another month before giving us more of your 'evidences'. Because you are a troll. I'm fairly sure most of the others think so too. But now, if your next post is anything other than a damn good answer to my question above (which you have already failed to give three times), or, at the very least, a summary of all your remaining 'evidences', - that will be absolute proof of the matter.

And I think that would be mate in two moves, if only it were that simple.

And your reply with my bold:

right!! that does it!!

i dont give a rats arse what you think of me. i only care what Allah thinks of me. so if you wanna talk nicely then i'll talk to ya, otherwise, you do know how to screw yourself, dont you. :I-love-pork:

so let me make it extra clear for you. until i first write down in my diary all the evidences for God, and it aint easy to get them right, and then secondly after that, i carefully copy them here, you can either wait for it like everyone else, or you can

I'm talking perfectly nicely here. My points in bold are simply to make my argument clear. I am simply asking for the evidences you promised.

And so we return to your feeble justification as to why you're not giving us any more 'evidences'. The reason I say it is feeble, is because your first two 'evidences', together, come to little over a hundred words. Here they are:

this is a whole big universe right?
now you tell me... who made it. not me. not you. obviously it didnt made itself.
so who did the universe.

answer is ALLAH.

we all see there are lots of beautiful things right?
no one ever says he does not know any beautiful things.
also, the fact is we all love beauty when we see it.
now you tell me... where does beauty come from? who makes it. who is the best artist.

the answer is ALLAH.

therefore, existence of beauty is a clear cut evidence that true God exists. Allah is the true God.

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Cheryl is the second evidence for Allah.

Since your second 'evidence', fourteen days ago, you have posted forty times in these threads, with the majority of the posts being significantly more than one hundred words.

If you continue to use the excuse that the remaining evidences are big, complicated, and take a long time to get together - you are setting yourself up for an essay, if not a book. In which case I suggest you give up on the first two, and get on with writing them.

I have given justification that by your religion you should be giving us all of these evidences as soon as you can. This whole thread is, according to you, specifically for giving us these evidences. And yet you have repeatedly failed to give any sensible justification as to why you are holding them back.
Is it because, deep down, you now understand that these 'evidences' are false, and can't prove anything?

[Tails Turrosaki]

Tails Turrosaki:

Can you hear Allah? Hear him speak into your ear and not into your mind? No, you cannot.
Can you see Alalh? See him in which everybody else can and not be a delusion only you can see? No, you cannot.
Can you taste Allah? Taste him in a sense where you go up and lick him? No, you cannot.
Can you smell Allah? Smell him where you can walk up and take a big whiff of him? No, you cannot.
Can you feel Allah? Feel him such as to say that you can go up to him and touch him and not feel him "in your heart" or "in your mind"? No, you cannot.

Thus according to scientific laws, God does not exist.

that is just bollocks coz you cant do any of that stuff to electrons either, but they do exist. duh.




Psychoserenity tried to take the piss of the two evidence for God by bringing in his cuppa.

WHAT THE FUCK. You can SEE electrons, just not with the naked eye. You just need a very, very, very, very, very... etc. strong microscope. You can't do that with God, though. No telescope or microscope available will allow you to see God. Now THAT is just bollocks, so don't give me your bullshit. And what's with the "duh"?

"Oh, I feel like I've PWN'd this kid so hard, so I'm going to add a 'Duh!' at the end to make my point seem even stronger than it already was LOL I'm so awesome!!"

Don't do that.

[JOZeldenrust]

I have asked on several occasions for you to present all of your 'evidences' as soon as possible.

Between each of these posts you have posted at least once, and failed to present any more of your 'evidences'.

Of course I have also, in each of my posts, hinted my scepticism of your intentions. I strongly suspect that you would much rather drag this out for another month before giving us more of your 'evidences'. Because you are a troll. I'm fairly sure most of the others think so too. But now, if your next post is anything other than a damn good answer to my question......

right!! that does it!!

i dont give a rats arse what you think of me. i only care what Allah thinks of me. so if you wanna talk nicely then i'll talk to ya, otherwise, you do know how to screw yourself, dont you. :I-love-pork:

so let me make it extra clear for you. until i first write down in my diary all the evidences for God, and it aint easy to get them right, and then secondly after that, i carefully copy them here, you can either wait for it like everyone else, or you can

mandy, this is a reminder to heed our guidelines, thanks.

And all the posts telling Mandy to kill himself in creative ways or otherwise remove his genetic material from the gene pool are going unpunished? Way to be rational...

[Tails Turrosaki]

right!! that does it!!

i dont give a rats arse what you think of me. i only care what Allah thinks of me. so if you wanna talk nicely then i'll talk to ya, otherwise, you do know how to screw yourself, dont you. :I-love-pork:

so let me make it extra clear for you. until i first write down in my diary all the evidences for God, and it aint easy to get them right, and then secondly after that, i carefully copy them here, you can either wait for it like everyone else, or you can

Implying that you don't care what they think of you yet you scold at them for doing so actually implies you are offended, thus care what they think. You are just being difficult.

You do not care what Allah thinks because Allah hasn't spoken to you, or told you anything now, has he? He will judge you when you're dead. That's right, dead. Meaning when you no longer can tell us anything of his existence, you'll be dead. That's going to be the only proof you'll have, but even then you can't prove it because you're not alive, you're dead.

So until you can die and come back from the dead and tell us your stories, you don't know shit about your deity and what he truly thinks of you.

[Tigger]

I have asked on several occasions for you to present all of your 'evidences' as soon as possible.

Between each of these posts you have posted at least once, and failed to present any more of your 'evidences'.

Of course I have also, in each of my posts, hinted my scepticism of your intentions. I strongly suspect that you would much rather drag this out for another month before giving us more of your 'evidences'. Because you are a troll. I'm fairly sure most of the others think so too. But now, if your next post is anything other than a damn good answer to my question......

right!! that does it!!

i dont give a rats arse what you think of me. i only care what Allah thinks of me. so if you wanna talk nicely then i'll talk to ya, otherwise, you do know how to screw yourself, dont you. :I-love-pork:

so let me make it extra clear for you. until i first write down in my diary all the evidences for God, and it aint easy to get them right, and then secondly after that, i carefully copy them here, you can either wait for it like everyone else, or you can

mandy, this is a reminder to heed our guidelines, thanks.

And all the posts telling Mandy to kill himself in creative ways or otherwise remove his genetic material from the gene pool are going unpunished? Way to be rational...

It's ok: he pretty much ignores anything we say anyway, which is why we're on the second evidence thread with still not a lot to show for it. He entertains himself like this and we do likewise. No-one seems to care too much. He's a Ray of light here.

[JOZeldenrust]

I have asked on several occasions for you to present all of your 'evidences' as soon as possible.

Between each of these posts you have posted at least once, and failed to present any more of your 'evidences'.

Of course I have also, in each of my posts, hinted my scepticism of your intentions. I strongly suspect that you would much rather drag this out for another month before giving us more of your 'evidences'. Because you are a troll. I'm fairly sure most of the others think so too. But now, if your next post is anything other than a damn good answer to my question......

right!! that does it!!

i dont give a rats arse what you think of me. i only care what Allah thinks of me. so if you wanna talk nicely then i'll talk to ya, otherwise, you do know how to screw yourself, dont you. :I-love-pork:

so let me make it extra clear for you. until i first write down in my diary all the evidences for God, and it aint easy to get them right, and then secondly after that, i carefully copy them here, you can either wait for it like everyone else, or you can

mandy, this is a reminder to heed our guidelines, thanks.

And all the posts telling Mandy to kill himself in creative ways or otherwise remove his genetic material from the gene pool are going unpunished? Way to be rational...

It's ok: he pretty much ignores anything we say anyway, which is why we're on the second evidence thread with still not a lot to show for it. He entertains himself like this and we do likewise. No-one seems to care too much. He's a Ray of light here.

It's not OK: the mods have double standards. It doesn't matter that Mandys posts are idiotic drivel, he's a member of the forum and as such protected by the same - albeit idiotic - rules.

[Deep Sea Isopod]

Wakȟáŋ Tȟáŋka

what the hell is that. are you chatting bollocks again?

Wakan Tanka. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wakan_Tanka
Far more powerful than your god.

Humans created him.

thats so funny. you actually believe humans can create a creator.
chaps here are having enough difficulty getting their heads around the fact that there is a creator who is behind our universe. now youre telling em its the other way round. thats a good one mate. you are saying the universe is responsible for the creator. that is so funny. i never heard that one before. it should make it to the joke of the year book. well done mate.

Just like JK Rowling created Harry Potter. She sat down and wrote a fiction story book about magic.

So, what's Allah made of?

i dont know mate. Allah is not telling us properly.
all he said was this: "Allah is the light of the heavens and the earth.."

Now I would've said the that was the Sun?

i dont know what Allah is on about there. maybe humans cant fully understand the absolute being like the true God. our intellect is limited .

Is Allah (Bless his cotton socks) omniscient and omnipotent?

"God is the Light of the heavens and the earth. The parable of His light is as if there were a niche and within it a lamp: The lamp enclosed in glass: The glass as it were a brilliant star: Lit from a blessed tree, an olive, neither of the east nor of the west, whose oil is well-nigh luminous, though fire scarce touched it: Light upon Light! God doth guide whom He will to His light: God doth set forth parables for men: and God doth know all things."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An-Nur

i dont know if youre any wiser now. im not.

Basically, it means Allah (Bless his cotton socks) is like a star (a star is just another sun) inside a bottle, burning away with an olive tree in there too.But the star (birning at 5,778 kelvin on it's surface) can't burn the tree because of the trees protective oils.

And you wonder why we have difficulty getting our heads around it?

[Tails Turrosaki]

Religion is blind.
Especially Islam.
'Cause they decided to ride 2 planes into 2 similar buildings.

... Honestly. Tell your people to calm the fuck down.

[PsychoSerenity]

right!! that does it!!

i dont give a rats arse what you think of me. i only care what Allah thinks of me. so if you wanna talk nicely then i'll talk to ya, otherwise, you do know how to screw yourself, dont you. :I-love-pork:

so let me make it extra clear for you. until i first write down in my diary all the evidences for God, and it aint easy to get them right, and then secondly after that, i carefully copy them here, you can either wait for it like everyone else, or you can

mandy, this is a reminder to heed our guidelines, thanks.

And all the posts telling Mandy to kill himself in creative ways or otherwise remove his genetic material from the gene pool are going unpunished? Way to be rational...

It's ok: he pretty much ignores anything we say anyway, which is why we're on the second evidence thread with still not a lot to show for it. He entertains himself like this and we do likewise. No-one seems to care too much. He's a Ray of light here.

It's not OK: the mods have double standards. It doesn't matter that Mandys posts are idiotic drivel, he's a member of the forum and as such protected by the same - albeit idiotic - rules.

If you're talking about the electrocution thing, I think that started as a joke from Pappa, when mandelson said that you couldn't feel electrons - I don't think anyone was seriously telling him to kill himself. But I don't know, I'm not a mod, so it's not my place to call it.

[A Monkey Shaved]

Football is the religion of choice for a substantial proportion of us Aussies, especially the Aussie Rules AFL variety
And if you are an avid Cats supporter this may well be the only evidence of God
as they adopt the old catch phrase "there is no God but Allah Gazza"

[charlou]

I have asked on several occasions for you to present all of your 'evidences' as soon as possible.

Between each of these posts you have posted at least once, and failed to present any more of your 'evidences'.

Of course I have also, in each of my posts, hinted my scepticism of your intentions. I strongly suspect that you would much rather drag this out for another month before giving us more of your 'evidences'. Because you are a troll. I'm fairly sure most of the others think so too. But now, if your next post is anything other than a damn good answer to my question......

right!! that does it!!

i dont give a rats arse what you think of me. i only care what Allah thinks of me. so if you wanna talk nicely then i'll talk to ya, otherwise, you do know how to screw yourself, dont you. :I-love-pork:

so let me make it extra clear for you. until i first write down in my diary all the evidences for God, and it aint easy to get them right, and then secondly after that, i carefully copy them here, you can either wait for it like everyone else, or you can

mandy, this is a reminder to heed our guidelines, thanks.

And all the posts telling Mandy to kill himself in creative ways or otherwise remove his genetic material from the gene pool are going unpunished? Way to be rational...

Can you report the post/s you think are breaching the guidelines, please JOZ. I have no wish to single mandy out unfairly.