Poll: Whaddya reckon about God's existence?

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Whaddya reckon about God's existence?

Strong theist. I know there is a God.
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6%
De facto theist. I'm not 100% certain but fairly sure there is a God, so I live on the assumption that there is one.
0
No votes
Leaning towards theism. I think the chance of God's existence is a bit better than 50%.
0
No votes
Sitting on the fence. I think the chance of God's existence is 50/50
0
No votes
Leaning towards atheism. I think the chance of God's existence is a bit less than 50%.
0
No votes
De facto atheist. I'm not 100% certain but fairly sure there is no God, so I live on the assumption that there isn't one.
16
48%
Strong atheist. I know there is no God.
6
18%
New-ager. I believe that some other forms of supernatural entities exist.
1
3%
What? No bacon or cheese? Fuck this poll.
8
24%
 
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Re: Poll: Whaddya reckon about God's existence?

Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Wed Oct 01, 2014 1:20 am

redunderthebed wrote:I'm a theist I do believe but I can understand why one who wants to be rational could easily draw the conclusion that there is no God because it requires faith every basic text of every religion says as much.
Actually, they don't. There is no mention of faith being required in the OT - that comes straight from jeebus - "whosoever believes in me..." etc.

The OT is just all, "I am the LORD thy GOD and I will smite thee and thy oxen and thy family and thy family's family for ninefold nine generations if you disobey ME!!1!! :lay: :lay: :lay:

Most earlier religions are similar. The whole "redemption through faith" thing is a very recent addition. Religions evolve, you see. Along with the societies that invent and maintain them.

The thing is, religion has evolved itself out of any need for existence - it's just that most theists have yet to recognise the fact... :tea:
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Re: Poll: Whaddya reckon about God's existence?

Post by piscator » Wed Oct 01, 2014 1:54 am

What suffices for me is the concept of a God with perfect foreknowledge who would make redunderthebed, load him up with Original Sin and Total Depravity, then punish him for the sins and depravities which He Himself determined poor redunder would certainly commit.
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Post by redunderthebed » Wed Oct 01, 2014 3:01 am

That would be true if I was a catholic. :coffee:
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Post by tattuchu » Wed Oct 01, 2014 3:39 am

Doggie! :awesome:

Anyway, red, is it true? Are you really that depraved? :hehe:
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Re: Poll: Whaddya reckon about God's existence?

Post by redunderthebed » Wed Oct 01, 2014 3:49 am

tattuchu wrote:Doggie! :awesome:

Anyway, red, is it true? Are you really that depraved? :hehe:
Yup :D
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Re: Poll: Whaddya reckon about God's existence?

Post by rainbow » Wed Oct 01, 2014 6:31 am

piscator wrote:What suffices for me is the concept of a God with perfect foreknowledge who would make redunderthebed, load him up with Original Sin and Total Depravity, then punish him for the sins and depravities which He Himself determined poor redunder would certainly commit.
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Re: Poll: Whaddya reckon about God's existence?

Post by rainbow » Wed Oct 01, 2014 6:36 am

Xamonas Chegwé wrote: However, simply asserting without proof or definition that "god is infinite" is one of the things that makes no fucking sense at all! :tea:
It isn't supposed to make sense.

Any Divine Being worth the name would be beyond our comprehension.



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Re: Poll: Whaddya reckon about God's existence?

Post by Svartalf » Wed Oct 01, 2014 8:13 am

Any divine being worth worshipping would have smitten the serpent before he could corrupt Adam and Eve, and forbidden Satan from bothering Job.
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Re: Poll: Whaddya reckon about God's existence?

Post by rainbow » Wed Oct 01, 2014 8:36 am

Svartalf wrote:Any divine being worth worshipping would have smitten the serpent before he could corrupt Adam and Eve, and forbidden Satan from bothering Job.
Where's the fun in that?
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Re: Poll: Whaddya reckon about God's existence?

Post by pErvinalia » Wed Oct 01, 2014 8:37 am

redunderthebed wrote:
tattuchu wrote:Doggie! :awesome:

Anyway, red, is it true? Are you really that depraved? :hehe:
Yup :D
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Re: Poll: Whaddya reckon about God's existence?

Post by Svartalf » Wed Oct 01, 2014 8:40 am

rainbow wrote:
Svartalf wrote:Any divine being worth worshipping would have smitten the serpent before he could corrupt Adam and Eve, and forbidden Satan from bothering Job.
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Re: Poll: Whaddya reckon about God's existence?

Post by Seth » Wed Oct 01, 2014 10:00 am

rainbow wrote:
Xamonas Chegwé wrote: However, simply asserting without proof or definition that "god is infinite" is one of the things that makes no fucking sense at all! :tea:
It isn't supposed to make sense.

Any Divine Being worth the name would be beyond our comprehension.



:smug:


Obviously.
Well, evidently that is the case, which is why God sent down his "only begotten Son" as a Man, to redeem the sins of the world in a manifestation that mankind CAN comprehend. Or so they say.

But how would the incomprehensiblity of God (to you) serve as any sort of evidence of the non-existence of said being? Perhaps comprehension of God is a gift he bestows on those who demonstrate faith in the truth of his words and deeds. In other words, just because you don't understand doesn't mean nobody understands.
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Re: Poll: Whaddya reckon about God's existence?

Post by Seth » Wed Oct 01, 2014 10:01 am

Svartalf wrote:Any divine being worth worshipping would have smitten the serpent before he could corrupt Adam and Eve, and forbidden Satan from bothering Job.
How then would Man have had free will and how would Job have come to his faith and salvation?
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Re: Poll: Whaddya reckon about God's existence?

Post by Svartalf » Wed Oct 01, 2014 10:08 am

Job had faith and slavation before he got bothered, that was even the reason he was picked on.

As for free will, we had it from day one or we could not have disobeyed the order not to eat of the fruit in the first place.
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Re: Poll: Whaddya reckon about God's existence?

Post by rainbow » Thu Oct 02, 2014 9:55 am

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rainbow wrote:
Xamonas Chegwé wrote: However, simply asserting without proof or definition that "god is infinite" is one of the things that makes no fucking sense at all! :tea:
It isn't supposed to make sense.

Any Divine Being worth the name would be beyond our comprehension.



:smug:


Obviously.
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But how would the incomprehensiblity of God (to you) serve as any sort of evidence of the non-existence of said being?
I have no idea. :dunno: Remember I voted 'cheese'.
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