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Post by Exi5tentialist » Sat Apr 30, 2016 1:27 pm

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rEvolutionist wrote:Wow, I literally just addressed this, and you totally don't get it. Again, private forums don't need to be democratic. I don't care about authoritarianism on internet forums, as it has zero effect on what authoritarianism is about - that is, political authoritarianism.
So let me get this straight. You don't care about authoritarianism on internet forums. You don't think private forums need to be democratic. So you don't give a shit that I thought Rationalia's original constitution was democratic before Pappa replaced it with his own one, and call me an authoritarian, because I once took a stance on democracy here?

And you top that irrational shit off with a "Wow"?
WTF are you talking about?
Read it, you might find out.

I didn't call you an authoritarian because you once took a stance on democracy here. What I've written is clear. It's not going to change no matter how you keep wilfully misinterpreting my words. Private forums can be as authoritarian as they like,
Did I say they couldn't?
just as private relationships can restrict free speech for the purposes of civility. Now stop erecting strawmen. If you can't, go and find something else to do.
So why did you call me authoritarian? What the fuck, to coin a phrase, were you talking about? I haven't a clue. Enlighten us.

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Post by Tyrannical » Sat Apr 30, 2016 1:28 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:What kind of busted arse logic is that?! You're getting stranger and stranger lately. Is this the real you coming out, or are you just looking for attention?
Was that comment to me? :ask:
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Post by pErvinalia » Sat Apr 30, 2016 1:28 pm

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According to Tyrannical's logic, we must be afraid of men because we are attracted to women. :crazy:
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Post by pErvinalia » Sat Apr 30, 2016 1:29 pm

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rEvolutionist wrote:What kind of busted arse logic is that?! You're getting stranger and stranger lately. Is this the real you coming out, or are you just looking for attention?
Was that comment to me? :ask:
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Post by pErvinalia » Sat Apr 30, 2016 1:30 pm

Exi5tentialist wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:
Exi5tentialist wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:Wow, I literally just addressed this, and you totally don't get it. Again, private forums don't need to be democratic. I don't care about authoritarianism on internet forums, as it has zero effect on what authoritarianism is about - that is, political authoritarianism.
So let me get this straight. You don't care about authoritarianism on internet forums. You don't think private forums need to be democratic. So you don't give a shit that I thought Rationalia's original constitution was democratic before Pappa replaced it with his own one, and call me an authoritarian, because I once took a stance on democracy here?

And you top that irrational shit off with a "Wow"?
WTF are you talking about?
Read it, you might find out.

I didn't call you an authoritarian because you once took a stance on democracy here. What I've written is clear. It's not going to change no matter how you keep wilfully misinterpreting my words. Private forums can be as authoritarian as they like,
Did I say they couldn't?
just as private relationships can restrict free speech for the purposes of civility. Now stop erecting strawmen. If you can't, go and find something else to do.
So why did you call me authoritarian? What the fuck, to coin a phrase, were you talking about? I haven't a clue. Enlighten us.
Piss off. You are a waste of time.
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Post by Svartalf » Sat Apr 30, 2016 1:31 pm

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laklak wrote:The Holy Books certainly mattered to those dudes Jihidi John chopped. They matter to LBGT folks in North Carolina. Saying they "don't matter" because the authors are dead is like saying Das Capital has no meaning to Cubans or Venezuelans or Chinese. Of course they matter. Not in and of themselves, but to their followers, and their followers can matter one fuck of a lot if you happen to get on the wrong side of them. We could got all philosobabble on the meaning of meaning, but I already had my morning wank.

Does 'LBGT' offend anyone else's OCD? It should be BGLT.
They should shorten it to BLT. Then everybody would love them :{D
except muslims and Jews, they hate the B
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Post by Exi5tentialist » Sat Apr 30, 2016 1:38 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:
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rEvolutionist wrote:The holy books of Islam, like those of Christianity and Judaism, are misogynist and bigoted.
The holy books of Islam, like those of Christianity and Judaism, are irrelevant. They became irrelevant a fairly short time after their authors died. The authors of those books are long dead, they have no power, their writings have no power. They are dead and gone. Gone forever.

If you want to join forces with those muslims, christians and jews who say that millenia-old markings on bits of paper have some kind of power over anybody in 2016, you go ahead and stand shoulder to shoulder with those who believe in that woo. I'm an atheist. I don't believe that books have a God-like immortality.
When whatever interpretation of whatever religion puts some of that misogyny and bigotry into practice it is perfectly reasonably to criticise them for it.
You say "interpretation", I say "projection". Between those two words there is a sea of ideological difference.
This has gone beyond farcical. You now seriously maintain that religious people don't follow and interpret the religious texts? Really?
Yes, that's right. They don't follow and interpret religious texts.

They read religious texts, project their chosen meanings onto it, then act accordingly.
Good luck in your fantasy world. I'll leave you to it.
On the contrary, it is you who has swallowed wholesale the religious idea that "the word" can be transmitted through many generations of dead people, and resurrected in its original form by the living two millenia later.

That, my friend, is complete woo.
Same as most of us are easier on Anglicanism than Catholicism.
Well that just says it all doesn't it. The religions of white western origin you go easier on.
Man, you can find anything to get offended at, can't you? It says exactly what it says. Within any religion there are some sects/order/denominations/etc that are worse than others. And that goes for Islam. Shove your disingenuous quotemine up your arse.
Oh, so over-generalisation doesn't happen then?

It does.

And you know it does.

And it actually wasn't a "quotemine". This whole discussion is about islam and its many manifestations - everybody knows the context in which you said you go easier on catholicism and anglicanism.

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Post by pErvinalia » Sat Apr 30, 2016 1:43 pm

Exi5tentialist wrote: And it actually wasn't a "quotemine". This whole discussion is about islam and its many manifestations - everybody knows the context in which you said you go easier on catholicism and anglicanism.
I said "Same as". As you say, the context is Islam. So I was equating the difference between sects in Christianity with the difference between sects within Islam. Now fuck off with your disingenuous bullshit.
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Post by Exi5tentialist » Sat Apr 30, 2016 1:43 pm

Svartalf wrote:
tattuchu wrote:
laklak wrote:The Holy Books certainly mattered to those dudes Jihidi John chopped. They matter to LBGT folks in North Carolina. Saying they "don't matter" because the authors are dead is like saying Das Capital has no meaning to Cubans or Venezuelans or Chinese. Of course they matter. Not in and of themselves, but to their followers, and their followers can matter one fuck of a lot if you happen to get on the wrong side of them. We could got all philosobabble on the meaning of meaning, but I already had my morning wank.

Does 'LBGT' offend anyone else's OCD? It should be BGLT.
They should shorten it to BLT. Then everybody would love them :{D
except muslims and Jews, they hate the B
Ah yes, let's all extend this tactical joke of unparalleled originality against LGBT people to Muslims and Jews too, then we can all pretend that we're incredibly witty and reassure each other with a good old guffaw.

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Post by Exi5tentialist » Sat Apr 30, 2016 1:47 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:
Exi5tentialist wrote: And it actually wasn't a "quotemine". This whole discussion is about islam and its many manifestations - everybody knows the context in which you said you go easier on catholicism and anglicanism.
I said "Same as". As you say, the context is Islam. So I was equating the difference between sects in Christianity with the difference between sects within Islam. Now fuck off with your disingenuous bullshit.
No actually you said easier on "Anglicism THAN Catholicism". I misread that as "Anglicanism AND Catholicism", my mistake being the source of the disagreement.

So stick that in your islamophobic pipe and smoke it.

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Post by Exi5tentialist » Sat Apr 30, 2016 1:48 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:Piss off. You are a waste of time.
But I still don't know why you're calling me an authoritarian.

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Post by Tyrannical » Sat Apr 30, 2016 1:50 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:
Tyrannical wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:What kind of busted arse logic is that?! You're getting stranger and stranger lately. Is this the real you coming out, or are you just looking for attention?
Was that comment to me? :ask:
Yes.
I was just quoting Cicero who said misogyny is caused by gynophobia. And there seems to be a lot of actual gynophobia among Afghan Muslims. So my logic is, ummm, logical :{D
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Post by pErvinalia » Sat Apr 30, 2016 1:51 pm

Exi5tentialist wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:
Exi5tentialist wrote: And it actually wasn't a "quotemine". This whole discussion is about islam and its many manifestations - everybody knows the context in which you said you go easier on catholicism and anglicanism.
I said "Same as". As you say, the context is Islam. So I was equating the difference between sects in Christianity with the difference between sects within Islam. Now fuck off with your disingenuous bullshit.
No actually you said easier on "Anglicism THAN Catholicism". I misread that as "Anglicanism AND Catholicism", my mistake being the source of the disagreement.

So stick that in your islamophobic pipe and smoke it.
Nice notpology. :roll:
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Post by pErvinalia » Sat Apr 30, 2016 1:53 pm

Tyrannical wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:
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rEvolutionist wrote:What kind of busted arse logic is that?! You're getting stranger and stranger lately. Is this the real you coming out, or are you just looking for attention?
Was that comment to me? :ask:
Yes.
I was just quoting Cicero who said misogyny is caused by gynophobia. And there seems to be a lot of actual gynophobia among Afghan Muslims. So my logic is, ummm, logical :{D
I was more referring to the logic as it applied to gay people. I'm pretty sure you'll find that gay people aren't afraid of women. The same as heteros aren't afraid of members of their own sex.
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Post by laklak » Sat Apr 30, 2016 1:58 pm

Most gay men I know love women. That's why they have fruit flies.
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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