I will not shoot the next priest I see...

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I thought they demanded you kill him with excessive applications of mom and apple pie.

If I locked him in a room with my Mom he'd kill himself in 24 hours.

[Mysturji]

I thought they demanded you kill him with excessive applications of mom and apple pie.

And Jesus and Elvis

[Hermit]

Why shoot the priest when you can whack him with the shovel that will serve to dispose of the remains?

Because Truth, Justice and the American Wayyyyyyyy demand I shoot the fucker, ya moron.

Too right. They are Marxist communist socialist enablers of the leeching classes, spreading traitorous messages allegedly given to them by a man they believe actually existed. They richly deserves to be executed, and so does anyone else who spreads messages, like this one:

• And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? And he said unto him, Why do you ask me about what is good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet? Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me. But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions. Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven. And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

[Matthew 19:16–24]

[JimC]

...but maybe the one after...

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Jesus never owned a gun, so he MUST BE a Marxist.

[Hermit]

Jesus never owned a gun, so he MUST BE a Marxist.

Worse than that! He just kept on opposing seething libertarianism in the most radical way:

• Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also.

Matthew 5:38–5:40

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Jesus never owned a gun, so he MUST BE a Marxist.

Worse than that! He just kept on opposing seething libertarianism in the most radical way:

• Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also. And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain. Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.

Matthew 5:38–5:42

I thought that just made him gay?

[Seth]

Priests make terrorist threats all the time. Only it's a post-mortem terror which they fill people up with. Gawdzilla killing one is poetic justice

Are they making threats or providing warnings?

I'd say they are just providing a warning. After all THEY aren't condemning anyone to perdition.

[Seth]

Okay, so I *will* shoot the next priest I see, for the safety of the children.

And the fact that only about 1 percent (4000 verified cases) of the 400,000 Catholic priests in service are involved in sexual abuse doesn't bother you at all?

I think your post needs to be referred to the authorities because you have made a terroristic threat.

Ayup. I too know that Gawdzilla meant every word he said, and even I'll believe him to be serious if his next post here affirms that he is serious.

I have never put anyone on ignore ever - Not only here, but anywhere else - but you are getting close to becoming the first one. Your hysterical screeching is getting too tedious to continue to listen to. You articulate your position reasonably well at times, albeit too often from mistaken premisses, but for months now your fulminations are only repetitions of what you have already said before.

You people have no sense of irony or sarcasm, much less humor.

And if you think my premises are mistaken, then feel free to explain exactly how they are mistaken and we'll discuss it. Asserting such a thing is not sufficient.

[Animavore]

Priests make terrorist threats all the time. Only it's a post-mortem terror which they fill people up with. Gawdzilla killing one is poetic justice

Are they making threats or providing warnings?

I'd say they are just providing a warning. After all THEY aren't condemning anyone to perdition.

How is that any better? It's like someone saying to you, "Mind you don't have an accident on the way home." There is an ill-will behind it I find threatening. Can't trust people like that. Who knows what they would do if they were in power and decided that an existential warning wasn't enough. Torture, burning at the stake... etc.

EDIT: 'metaphysical' not 'existential'.

[Daedalus]

Hey, maybe the father can pray for intercession to their new patron saint of sex offenders, John Paul II.

[Hermit]

And if you think my premises are mistaken, then feel free to explain exactly how they are mistaken and we'll discuss it.

Been there, tried that. Discussions with you leave me with the impression that I've tried to talk things over with a fundamentalist christian or muslim. Your dogmatism is impervious to logic or fact.

[Blind groper]

On an emotional level, I tend to go along with what Zilla said, except that it is not directed at priests, per se. Just to pedophiles of all kinds. Anyone who can do that to an innocent young kid is beyond the pale.

Just a query here, though. I sometimes wonder if there are a lot of people out there with pedophile tendencies, but who know it is wrong, and who stop themselves doing nasty things to kids because they know it is wrong. If such people exist, I would respect them. Do you guys think this is likely?

[Gawdzilla Sama]

On an emotional level, I tend to go along with what Zilla said, except that it is not directed at priests, per se. Just to pedophiles of all kinds. Anyone who can do that to an innocent young kid is beyond the pale.

Just a query here, though. I sometimes wonder if there are a lot of people out there with pedophile tendencies, but who know it is wrong, and who stop themselves doing nasty things to kids because they know it is wrong. If such people exist, I would respect them. Do you guys think this is likely?

Could be, I think it's likely that there are people with "an interest" in kids. That would be the low end of the range with active predator at the other. What keeps people from acting on their urges spans a spectrum as well. "I know it's wrong and I'll never act on it" to "I'd love to do it, but I'm afraid of getting caught."

[Seth]

Priests make terrorist threats all the time. Only it's a post-mortem terror which they fill people up with. Gawdzilla killing one is poetic justice

Are they making threats or providing warnings?

I'd say they are just providing a warning. After all THEY aren't condemning anyone to perdition.

How is that any better? It's like someone saying to you, "Mind you don't have an accident on the way home." There is an ill-will behind it I find threatening.

How about they say "STOP! Don't drive down that road, the bridge is out and you will surely DIE!" Is there an ill will there? I think not.

That's the thing, you see, believers BELIEVE that the unsaved are doomed to an eternity of suffering and they firmly believe that it is their moral and civic duty to show sinners the truth (as they see it) and lead them to salvation because THAT is what Christ commanded them to do.

There is no ill will in such beliefs or actions. Of course some believers of many different religions, specifically Islam, go far beyond just saying "Repent or spend eternity in Hell", they see themselves and their religious bretheren as superior and favored of God and everybody else as an infidel who must be killed if they cannot be brought to the faith. Even Christians are subject to this sort of perversion of the messages of the New Testament, as can be seen historically in the actions of some of the higher authorities in the Catholic church during, by way of example, the Crusades and the Spanish Inquisition.

But because one sect of any religion acts this way does not mean that those members are necessarily and automatically acting in obedience to their own doctrine, much less does it mean that ALL members of a particular religion, or sect, believe or act in that way.

This is why the blind maligning of Christians by Atheists is so intellectually bankrupt. They refuse to acknowledge that there are many different sects of Christianity and that the vast majority of them are peaceable, kind, loving and tolerant and cannot be lumped in with other sects who are less tolerant or obedient to the words of Jesus.

It's exactly like saying that all atheists are Atheists and that they are all intolerant, ignorant fuckwits who have no reasoning ability but instead rely on emotion and blind hatred.

Can't trust people like that. Who knows what they would do if they were in power and decided that an existential warning wasn't enough. Torture, burning at the stake... etc.

EDIT: 'metaphysical' not 'existential'.

Remind me to chastise the Highway Department for putting up all those "Road Closed" signs and likewise the Highway Patrol for writing all those tickets to people who ignore the advisory.