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Re: More Evidences for God

Post by Trolldor » Mon May 10, 2010 5:26 pm

Enough.
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Re: More Evidences for God

Post by MrFungus420 » Mon May 10, 2010 6:26 pm

mandelson wrote:in that old thread, i gave these 2 evidences for existence of a intelligent creator. read them there for full details. here are the short versions for scientific minded people.

where else did matter come from if not created by God; and who else makes things so pretty if not God?

1. existence of beauty is evidence that there has to be a designer artist.
Beauty is subjective. It is an opinion. It does not, itself, exist.

But, let's assume for a second that it is true. That means that the following is equally valid:

Existence of evil is evidence that there has to be an designer malevolent.
mandelson wrote:2. existence of a big universe is evidence that there has to be a creator.
No, it is evidence that the universe exists.

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Re: More Evidences for God

Post by colubridae » Mon May 10, 2010 6:32 pm

Thinking Aloud wrote:
mandelson wrote:most members were not interested in God ... they dont yet see the seriousness of God.
We don't give a damn about your god. We are atheists (mostly). Look it up.

Yeah! and they're all individuals; But like you, norMandy, I'm not :doh:
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Re: More Evidences for God

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Don't you know that Mandy finds images of Mohammad offensive?
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Re: More Evidences for God

Post by Coito ergo sum » Mon May 10, 2010 6:34 pm

mandelson wrote:in that old thread, i gave these 2 evidences for existence of a intelligent creator. read them there for full details. here are the short versions for scientific minded people.

where else did matter come from if not created by God; and who else makes things so pretty if not God?

1. existence of beauty is evidence that there has to be a designer artist.
Beauty doesn't exist outside of the mind. Whether something is beautiful or ugly is purely an opinion - a function of the human brain. Beauty doesn't exist anywhere except inside our brains.
mandelson wrote: 2. existence of a big universe is evidence that there has to be a creator.
The universe being big or small does not evidence a creator. It doesn't evidence anything other than that the universe is bigger than we are. Big is a relative term. There is no such thing as "big" independently of a comparison between one thing and another. If you look at your car, you see that it is not as big as your house. There isn't necessarily any greater meaning than that. Galaxies are bigger than stars, and the universe is bigger than galaxies, and planets are smaller than stars and people are smaller than planets. That's just a statement of the way things are, and has no bearing on why they are.

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Re: More Evidences for God

Post by MrFungus420 » Mon May 10, 2010 6:37 pm

Trying to censor Mandy by flooding the thread?

Well, if you want to make him look good by comparison, I suppose that's the way to do it.
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Re: More Evidences for God

Post by Svartalf » Mon May 10, 2010 6:49 pm

MrFungus420 wrote:Trying to censor Mandy by flooding the thread?

Well, if you want to make him look good by comparison, I suppose that's the way to do it.
except that a spamflood is really no fun :(
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Re: More Evidences for God

Post by Tails Turrosaki » Mon May 10, 2010 6:53 pm

What's the topic about now? :coffee: I'd like to join in.
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Re: More Evidences for God

Post by Bella Fortuna » Mon May 10, 2010 6:57 pm

The topic is claiming to have "evidence" for something, and not understanding that the mere existence of something does not constitute evidence of something else. Or even understanding what 'evidence' means.

Or something. :think:
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Re: More Evidences for God

Post by colubridae » Mon May 10, 2010 6:58 pm

Tails Turrosaki wrote:What's the topic about now? :coffee: I'd like to join in.

Fuck knows? mandy certainly doesn't.
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Re: More Evidences for God

Post by Bella Fortuna » Mon May 10, 2010 7:07 pm

colubridae wrote:
Tails Turrosaki wrote:What's the topic about now? :coffee: I'd like to join in.

Fuck knows? mandy certainly doesn't.
Maybe he should ask ray at Rat Skep.
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