I have the requisite million cocksBella Fortuna wrote:What to do then if you had two interested believers...

Understand though, that I apply them serially rather than in parallel.



I have the requisite million cocksBella Fortuna wrote:What to do then if you had two interested believers...
I believe we have a problem already. Standing on the shoulders of pygmies whilst wearing Bible-blinkers shortens one's horizon markedly.thedistillers wrote:
As far as I can see,
I'm guessing that you believe some kind of "Prime Mover" would make things rational. How odd.thedistillers wrote: there is no rational reason for the atheist to trust that science will make accurate predictions about the future.
Ooohh.....mmmmm......because that is what I observe? I could decide to believe that the Universe is truly random but that might make catching the bus in the morning a bit of a trial.thedistillers wrote: Why assuming that the future will be like the past?
If not believing in god(s) is true? It is true - atheists don't believe in gods, that's the deal, really. I expect you mean "If atheists are correct".thedistillers wrote: If atheism is true,
Non-sequitur, as noted. We have worked out the laws of physics and the Universe we see conforms to the predictions those laws make. We don't know it all, clearly, but what we can see makes sense. As for things requiring a "person" to make them rational - I'd think the exact opposite is true.thedistillers wrote: then the universe is not rational; it is not sustained by a Person.
And believing that some beardy celestial tinkerer personally supervises the way the water drains down the plughole every morning is rational?thedistillers wrote: The answer, "it works so far" is not a rational answer.
And therefore God?thedistillers wrote: For example, we could have an infinite list of numbers generated by a formula and assume that all numbers generated are prime, but as long as we haven't proved that it only generates prime numbers, we can't assume that all numbers are prime just because the first 1000, or 100 000 numbers are prime.
Usually, a "conclusion" follows a logical series of arguments that inexorably point to it. You seem to have missed that step....thedistillers wrote: In short, atheists are irrational to trust science,
You are a) ignoring that observation follows prediction with remarkable tenacity and b) positing a capricious and random god who has to tinker with things all the time to make them work. You make the almighty sound like a third-rate computer programmer.thedistillers wrote: for there is no good reason to assume the future will be like the past.
And we come to the final,rasping breath of this oh too mortal argument. An assertion backed up by a wet tissue of argumentation. If this was a race, you'd have been shot dead by the starters pistol....thedistillers wrote: Atheism is based on blind faith. Atheism is irrational.
Ah, but how can you be sure that thedistiller will not have a real argument tomorrow?Clinton Huxley wrote:I read the first page of this thread and the last page. I didn't read the inbetweeny pages but I use the power of science to predict that thedistiller's "argument" did not move on one iota.
Hail Science!
I think he's been pushing the same line since 2006 - I remain sanguine that my thesis will not be disproved....Xeno wrote:Ah, but how can you be sure that thedistiller will not have a real argument tomorrow?Clinton Huxley wrote:I read the first page of this thread and the last page. I didn't read the inbetweeny pages but I use the power of science to predict that thedistiller's "argument" did not move on one iota.
Hail Science!
See? Therefore god.
I'm "hoping" that Bodhi, Supersport, Stipe and The Chimpion will turn up....klr wrote:Just like old times.![]()
thedistillers I mean, not the photo in the post above.
heyzeus wrote:If you think the universe is in such a transient state, what makes you think your god will exist tomorrow? Not that I'm expecting you to answer this. You'll probably ignore it like you've ignored everything else that has been said to you. I can't say I'm too interested in your response anyway as I'm sure it will be some sort of special plea.
Bodhi would be frustrated by the restriction to just 5 levels of nested quotes. There was a man who loved his quote trees.Clinton Huxley wrote:I'm "hoping" that Bodhi, Supersport, Stipe and The Chimpion will turn up....klr wrote:Just like old times.![]()
thedistillers I mean, not the photo in the post above.
Yep, that is precisely the answer I'm expecting.Feck wrote:heyzeus wrote:If you think the universe is in such a transient state, what makes you think your god will exist tomorrow? Not that I'm expecting you to answer this. You'll probably ignore it like you've ignored everything else that has been said to you. I can't say I'm too interested in your response anyway as I'm sure it will be some sort of special plea.
Because god by definition is eternal ........same reason why the universe needs a beginning and a creator but god doesn'ttheanswerisGod theanswerisGodtheanswerisGodtheanswerisGodtheanswerisGodtheanswerisGodtheanswerisGodtheanswerisGodtheanswerisGodtheanswerisGodtheanswerisGodtheanswerisGodtheanswerisGodtheanswerisGodtheanswerisGodtheanswerisGod ZZZzzzip needle stuck sorry
Wine yes, gin no.JimC wrote:I want the distillers to turn water into gin...
And I want it now!
And that was before coffee (or even trousers) I iz clever me!.......I can do the creationist thing in my sleep .....no thinking neededheyzeus wrote:Yep, that is precisely the answer I'm expecting.Feck wrote:heyzeus wrote:If you think the universe is in such a transient state, what makes you think your god will exist tomorrow? Not that I'm expecting you to answer this. You'll probably ignore it like you've ignored everything else that has been said to you. I can't say I'm too interested in your response anyway as I'm sure it will be some sort of special plea.
Because god by definition is eternal ........same reason why the universe needs a beginning and a creator but god doesn'ttheanswerisGod theanswerisGodtheanswerisGodtheanswerisGodtheanswerisGodtheanswerisGodtheanswerisGodtheanswerisGodtheanswerisGodtheanswerisGodtheanswerisGodtheanswerisGodtheanswerisGodtheanswerisGodtheanswerisGodtheanswerisGod ZZZzzzip needle stuck sorry
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