I do not avoid discussion on the subject of fatties. I just keep asking you for independent and verifiable statistical evidence that "Obesity multiplies the spreading of this disease, AND the severity".Cunt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 10:23 pmI'm surprised at how firmly you avoid discussion on the subject of fatties choosing to be a burden, and choosing to be unhealthy (not a problem unless medicine is a 'pooled resource') and pretending that it isn't just overindulgence and laziness worn like a fine suit of undiscipline.
Still waiting for you to provide the statistics for that assertion. Not holding my breath, though. Your record for backing your assertions up with independent and verifiable statistics is non-existent. I am not optimistic that this will change.Hermit wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:17 amObesity might increase the likelihood of infection to some extent or another, but multiply? If that were the case there'd have to be some pretty solid statistics available in support. Like the statistics showing that in the time 204 deaths involving Covid-19 occurred in the 0-18 year age bracket and another 1684 in the 18-29 bracket, 133,557 people in the 75-84 bracket and 151,344 people aged 85 and over died from the same causes. That's from the CDC's Table one here. I could not find a statistical correlation between obesity and Covid-19 related morbidity. Can you? I'll wait. If you forget, I'll remind you. Or you could admit right now you just made the whole thing up because the idea harmonises with the rest of your mindset.
Also, if I had denied that obese, or even just overweight people were a burden on society, you'd be able to quote me on that. You are not, for I have never made such a denial. You won't find my take on overindulgence and laziness regarding overweight people either. I have not written anything about it.
You have pasted a list of factors that place people at a higher risk for severe illness from COVID-19 now. The following points are noteworthy:
a) While the list mentions "higher risk for severe illness", it does not claim higher risk of catching the disease.
b) Among the dozen listed factors, age is at the top of the list, and "People living with obesity" at the bottom.
c) It stipulates that people with severe obesity (BMI of 40 or higher) are at risk. According to the CDC a BMI of 30 and above is classed as obese, 25-29.9 is overweight and 18.5-24.9 is normal.
This means that you are not even right in lumping all obese people into the high risk class of being severely affected by the Coronavirus, and as mentioned above, there is not as much as a hint that "Obesity multiplies the spreading of this disease". Your common sense is faulty. If weight loss were more effective in protecting the community from more covid-damage than wearing masks, all health organisations in the world would be shouting this message out from the rooftops. They don't because the data don't support your view.
