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Re: The US Supreme Court

Post by Svartalf » Thu Nov 30, 2023 5:46 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:
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The govt clearly has no right to prevent you doing anything you want.
I don't want to engage in insurrection, but I'll have to if this goes on
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Re: The US Supreme Court

Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Nov 30, 2023 7:04 pm

Svartalf wrote:
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Brian Peacock wrote:
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The govt clearly has no right to prevent you doing anything you want.
I don't want to engage in insurrection, but I'll have to if this goes on
Ah, but you have a deep reading on history and understanding that if the aristocracy get too carried away feathering their nests the people start revolting.
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Re: The US Supreme Court

Post by L'Emmerdeur » Tue Dec 12, 2023 1:55 am

Justice Thomas, upholder of the right of religious shitheads and their fellow travellers to mess with children. He went with 'free speech' as if conversion therapy were only a matter of talking. I think it would have been more on the nose if he'd based his dissent of 'religious freedom' but perhaps even he can see that wouldn't redound to the benefit of the holy bigots.

'Clarence Thomas Vehemently Objects to LGBTQ Conversion Therapy Case Denial by SCOTUS'
The U.S. Supreme Court has refused to hear a case challenging the state of Washington’s law banning anti-LGBTQ conversion therapy for minors, but in the 6-3 decision Justices Samuel Alito, Brett Kavanaugh, and Clarence Thomas said they would have taken the case. Justice Thomas vehemently objected to the Court’s decision, using his dissent to declare the practice – denounced as dangerous by major medical organizations and as torture by organizations and some who have been subjected to it – a First Amendment issue.

NBC News reports, “the court left in place a state law that bars therapists from counseling minors to change sexual orientation or gender identity, a practice favored by some conservatives.”

Conversion therapy, which experts say is unsuccessful and has been labeled child abuse or fraud, aims to change an LGBTQ individual’s sexual orientation or gender identity.

The Human Rights Campaign has published the statements of 15 medical groups’ positions against conversion therapy, and of a coalition of medical, mental health, education, and religious groups also opposing the practice.

Courthouse News, reporting on the Court’s refusal to take up the case, noted, “State lawmakers enacted the law to protect the physical and psychological well-being of minors, including lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender youth. A 2018 study found that over 60% of children who received conversion therapy attempted suicide.”

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Thomas insisted conversion therapy is an issue of free speech, despite that methods used in the U.S. and around the world can range from talk therapy to medication, surgery, electro-shock “therapy,” and even “physical and psychological violence” according to a statement opposing conversion therapy from the Independent Forensic Expert Group on Conversion Therapy.

“There is little question that SB 5722 regulates speech and therefore implicates the First Amendment. True, counseling is a form of therapy, but it is conducted solely through speech,” Thomas wrote in his dissent. “A law that restricts speech based on its content or viewpoint is presumptively unconstitutional and may be upheld only if the state can prove that the law is narrowly tailored to serve compelling state interests.”

Justice Thomas did not appear to consider the state’s primary role and compelling interest in protecting minors.

He also wrongly claimed, “under SB 5722, licensed counselors cannot voice anything other than the state-approved opinion on minors with gender dysphoria without facing punishment.”
It seems likely that in the view of Justice Thomas 'protecting minors' means protecting them from doctors and counsellors who work with LGBT children rather than insisting that they should conform to the views of their anti-LGBT parents.

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Re: The US Supreme Court

Post by Brian Peacock » Tue Dec 12, 2023 2:19 am

Thomas' biggest enemy is The Woke inside his head.
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Re: The US Supreme Court

Post by Svartalf » Tue Dec 12, 2023 2:24 am

Stand up and stay woke was a slogan of his youth...
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Re: The US Supreme Court

Post by JimC » Tue Dec 12, 2023 2:45 am

We need conversion therapy for religious morons...
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Post by Tero » Tue Dec 12, 2023 2:55 am

Too bad Cunt left again. But we already know what he would say.
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Re: The US Supreme Court

Post by JimC » Tue Dec 12, 2023 2:57 am

Perhaps we need a "ParodyCunt"...

pErv would do a good job... :tea:
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Post by rasetsu » Tue Dec 12, 2023 3:33 am

We can all contribute. Make the thread where Cunt discusses things a convo done in Cunt's style.

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Re: The US Supreme Court

Post by Svartalf » Tue Dec 12, 2023 3:36 am

JimC wrote:
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We need conversion therapy for religious morons...
preferably of the sort seen in Clockwork Orange
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Re: The US Supreme Court

Post by Tero » Wed Dec 13, 2023 4:38 pm

Court could let of Jan 6th rioters and Trump off on a "technicality"
The obstruction charge, which carries up to 20 years behind bars, has been brought against more than 300 defendants and is among the most widely used felony charges brought in the massive federal prosecution following the deadly insurrection on Jan. 6, 2021, when a mob of Trump supporters stormed the Capitol in a bid to keep Biden, a Democrat, from taking the White House.

U.S. District Judge Carl Nichols found that prosecutors stretched the law beyond its scope to inappropriately apply it in these cases. Nichols ruled that a defendant must have taken “some action with respect to a document, record or other object” to obstruct an official proceeding under the law.
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Re: The US Supreme Court

Post by Sean Hayden » Wed Dec 13, 2023 5:41 pm

Our leaders provide the illusion of participation, so it’s no wonder a bunch of yahoos thought they might play revolution and actually change things by attacking a ceremony, the ceremony is all they’ve ever known. :crumple:

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Post by rasetsu » Wed Dec 13, 2023 5:56 pm

Tero wrote:
Wed Dec 13, 2023 4:38 pm
Court could let of Jan 6th rioters and Trump off on a "technicality"
The obstruction charge, which carries up to 20 years behind bars, has been brought against more than 300 defendants and is among the most widely used felony charges brought in the massive federal prosecution following the deadly insurrection on Jan. 6, 2021, when a mob of Trump supporters stormed the Capitol in a bid to keep Biden, a Democrat, from taking the White House.

U.S. District Judge Carl Nichols found that prosecutors stretched the law beyond its scope to inappropriately apply it in these cases. Nichols ruled that a defendant must have taken “some action with respect to a document, record or other object” to obstruct an official proceeding under the law.
https://apnews.com/article/supreme-cour ... 9dd0d5a1ab
You're omitting the fact that Nichols was overruled on appeal. Other courts have rejected the view embraced by Nichols as well. It's the convictions based upon the overruling of Nichols which is set to go before SCOTUS, and given that Nichols' view is something of a minority view, likely will be rejected. (Unless, of course, Roberts and his little gang of Nazis feel the need to further undermine the reputation of the court.)

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Re: The US Supreme Court

Post by Svartalf » Wed Dec 13, 2023 6:08 pm

I do think they are hellbound to make a bad joke of it.
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Post by Tero » Thu Dec 14, 2023 2:04 pm

Court set to ponder whether Trump could shoot someone on 5th Avenue till June. It may take till June.
Agreeing to take up the request this term would mean the Supreme Court resolves the immunity issue by the end of June. Smith’s request further asks the justices to resolve the case even sooner.
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