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Re: George Floyd protests

Post by Tero » Thu Jul 30, 2020 3:17 pm

Federal agents show stronger force at Portland protests despite order to withdraw

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"I’m still here and they’re leaving. I’d say that whatever it was they came to do, they didn’t do it,” said Amy Tulip, wearing a helmet and gas mask, and holding a “Fuck Trump, Fuck the Feds” sign.

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Re: George Floyd protests

Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:51 pm

rainbow wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:51 pm
pErvinalia wrote:
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She looks like a corpse that's been propped upright.
You don't see the family resemblance?
rainbow wrote:
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To what?
Your mother :ddpan:
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Re: George Floyd protests

Post by Tero » Thu Jul 30, 2020 5:10 pm

The Mexican-American founder of the Wall of Moms movement in Portland was accused of treason and ‘anti-blackness’ by BLM activists after saying the movement should protect non-black protesters too.
The movement started in Portland earlier this month in an attempt to discourage federal law enforcement from using heavy-handed tactics against ongoing Black Lives Matter protests in the city. It enjoyed a rapid growth, with similar groups popping up in other cities, and has drawn national media attention.
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Re: George Floyd protests

Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:02 pm

Tero wrote:The Mexican-American founder of the Wall of Moms movement in Portland was accused of treason and ‘anti-blackness’ by BLM activists after saying the movement should protect non-black protesters too.
The movement started in Portland earlier this month in an attempt to discourage federal law enforcement from using heavy-handed tactics against ongoing Black Lives Matter protests in the city. It enjoyed a rapid growth, with similar groups popping up in other cities, and has drawn national media attention.
Was she really, or did someone make a tweet and then somebody else made A News out of the gossip?
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Re: George Floyd protests

Post by laklak » Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:18 pm

It's a real brouhaha. https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2020/07 ... t-pdx.html

Revisionist anti-revolutionary Trotskyite! Imperialistic war-mongering enemy of the peace loving proletariat!

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Re: George Floyd protests

Post by JimC » Fri Jul 31, 2020 12:06 am

Splitters and "enemies within the ranks" have been a problem for the left historically...
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Re: George Floyd protests

Post by Hermit » Fri Jul 31, 2020 5:57 am

JimC wrote:
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Splitters and "enemies within the ranks" have been a problem for the left historically...
The only people...
So you talk about mobs and the working classes as if they were the question. You've got that eternal idiotic idea that if anarchy came it would come from the poor. Why should it? The poor have been rebels, but they have never been anarchists; they have more interest than anyone else in there being some decent government. The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all. Aristocrats were always anarchists. - G.K. Chesterton

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Re: George Floyd protests

Post by laklak » Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:36 pm

Happens on the right, too. Ask Ernst Röhm.
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Re: George Floyd protests

Post by Hermit » Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:41 pm

laklak wrote:
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Happens on the right, too. Ask Ernst Röhm.
The SA did not split. It was liquidated from above.
So you talk about mobs and the working classes as if they were the question. You've got that eternal idiotic idea that if anarchy came it would come from the poor. Why should it? The poor have been rebels, but they have never been anarchists; they have more interest than anyone else in there being some decent government. The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all. Aristocrats were always anarchists. - G.K. Chesterton

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Re: George Floyd protests

Post by Svartalf » Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:59 pm

laklak wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:18 pm
It's a real brouhaha. https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2020/07 ... t-pdx.html

Revisionist anti-revolutionary Trotskyite! Imperialistic war-mongering enemy of the peace loving proletariat!

Robespierre died on the guillotine. Che Guevara wannabes would do well to remember that.
Well, che wannabees ought to make a trek to Columbia or Bolivia to stoke the fires of Revolution, the locals will welcome them as they deserve.
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Re: George Floyd protests

Post by Tyrannical » Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:15 pm

The rest of the george floyd arrest tape got leaked. Complained about 'can't breathe' before the cops even touched him. It's clear that the original autopsy was correct, cause of death was heart attack brought on by heart disease, drugs, and stress of being restrained. Cops did nothing wrong. So another round of riots will be on the way.
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Re: George Floyd protests

Post by Hermit » Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:33 pm

Tyrannical wrote:
Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:15 pm
The rest of the george floyd arrest tape got leaked. Complained about 'can't breathe' before the cops even touched him. It's clear that the original autopsy was correct, cause of death was heart attack brought on by heart disease, drugs, and stress of being restrained. Cops did nothing wrong. So another round of riots will be on the way.
Like Dylann Roof did not murder nine African Americans. They died of lead poisoning during a Bible study at the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church.
So you talk about mobs and the working classes as if they were the question. You've got that eternal idiotic idea that if anarchy came it would come from the poor. Why should it? The poor have been rebels, but they have never been anarchists; they have more interest than anyone else in there being some decent government. The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all. Aristocrats were always anarchists. - G.K. Chesterton

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Re: George Floyd protests

Post by Brian Peacock » Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:43 pm

Indeed. I wonder why anyone would care to pretend that a cop applying pressure to the neck of someone who was not resisting arrest was justifiable homicide because of reasons. :tea:
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Re: George Floyd protests

Post by Hermit » Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:48 pm

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Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:43 pm
Indeed. I wonder why anyone would care to pretend that a cop applying pressure to the neck of someone who was not resisting arrest was justifiable homicide because of reasons. :tea:
Especially when throttling a handcuffed arrestee for well over two minutes after said arrestee has become non-responsive is standard operational procedure.
So you talk about mobs and the working classes as if they were the question. You've got that eternal idiotic idea that if anarchy came it would come from the poor. Why should it? The poor have been rebels, but they have never been anarchists; they have more interest than anyone else in there being some decent government. The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all. Aristocrats were always anarchists. - G.K. Chesterton

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