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Re: Trump Supporters are Imbeciles

Post by rainbow » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:51 am

Seabass wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:38 am
I don't like that guy's framing because it makes city folks out to be the bad guys and country folks out to be the victims.
Oh the article is full of nonsense, just interesting in the context of this thread.



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There are urbanised, well-educated Trump supporters.

There are simple country folk who hate his intestines.
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Re: Trump Supporters are Imbeciles

Post by Brian Peacock » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:59 am

Racism is only one aspect of class struggle. Image
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Re: Trump Supporters are Imbeciles

Post by Seabass » Tue Dec 01, 2020 5:59 pm

Class struggle is one consequence of racism.
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Post by Tero » Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:45 pm

Struggle is only one aspect of struggle!
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Re: Trump Supporters are Imbeciles

Post by JimC » Tue Dec 01, 2020 7:59 pm

People are silly buggers.
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Re: Trump Supporters are Imbeciles

Post by Brian Peacock » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:51 pm

"Philosophy Jim" is in the house! :D
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Re: Trump Supporters are Imbeciles

Post by Seabass » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:38 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:59 am
Racism is only one aspect of class struggle. Image
Only a white person would say something like this. :nono:

What does that even mean? I'm sure you'll correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like you think you can reduce racism to a side aspect of the class struggle.

The obscene wealth inequality in the US exists because of the racism, it's not the other way around.
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Re: Trump Supporters are Imbeciles

Post by pErvinalia » Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:52 am

Get ready for some dialectic..
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Re: Trump Supporters are Imbeciles

Post by Brian Peacock » Wed Dec 02, 2020 6:45 am

pErvinalia wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:52 am
Get ready for some dialectic..
I've written a pamphlet on that already - it's around here somewhere. :D
Seabass wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:38 pm
Brian Peacock wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:59 am
Racism is only one aspect of class struggle. Image
Only a white person would say something like this. :nono:

What does that even mean? I'm sure you'll correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like you think you can reduce racism to a side aspect of the class struggle.

The obscene wealth inequality in the US exists because of the racism, it's not the other way around.
I said something similar not so long ago and people had a bit of trouble parsing it. I said that Capitalism wasn't only built on racism but necessitates it. They said that Capitalism was built on and necessitates exploitation but that there's no requirement for it to be racist. We had a bit of a chat about it in the Capitalism thread, though admittedly I don't think I convinced anyone to take the idea seriously and the discussion petered out.

My posts with Marx's cheeky grin are not entirely serious. I'm taking the piss out of my image here as some kind of rampant Marxist. 8 words and a piccy doesn't express or represent the totality of my views - nor was it intended to. While I'm a rampant Leftie in general, I'm not what one might call a 'class reductionist' - which is a rather simplistic, one-dimensional analysis, imo. I could say more (when couldn't I eh?) but I'd like to hear some more of your thoughts on the intersection of class and race before writing a book about it.
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Re: Trump Supporters are Imbeciles

Post by rainbow » Wed Dec 02, 2020 7:01 am

pErvinalia wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:52 am
Get ready for some dialectic..
The individual pre-workerist chaise raising struggle is manifest.

...in proletarian:
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Re: Trump Supporters are Imbeciles

Post by pErvinalia » Wed Dec 02, 2020 7:02 am

I don't see much intersection other than some classes and some "races" are exploited.
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Re: Trump Supporters are Imbeciles

Post by Tero » Wed Dec 02, 2020 6:27 pm

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That was responding to a Trumpster who demanded that the FBI (why would he trust the FBI?) investigate the rigged Dominion voting machines "because they are made abroad."

I had to block him after he called me a moron.

The moron:
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Re: Trump Supporters are Imbeciles

Post by Tero » Wed Dec 02, 2020 6:32 pm

I hope he dies of 'rona:
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People who fall for fearmongering and are scared of a cold with a 99% survival rate are the ones ruining the economy.

Your fear doesn’t outweigh my rights.
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And our hands they are many and we'd be of one voice
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Re: Trump Supporters are Imbeciles

Post by rainbow » Thu Dec 03, 2020 7:49 am

Tero wrote:
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Your fear doesn’t outweigh my rights.
Does a citizen of a civilised country not have a duty of care to others in the society?

Like not spreading diseases, or driving while shitfaced?
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Re: Trump Supporters are Imbeciles

Post by Tero » Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:49 am

He is not a citizen. He's declared himself a country. Duh!
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Said Peter...what you're requesting just isn't my bag
Said Daemon, who's sorry too, but y'see we didn't have no choice
And our hands they are many and we'd be of one voice
We've come all the way from Wigan to get up and state
Our case for survival before it's too late

Turn stone to bread, said Daemon Duncetan
Turn stone to bread right away...

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