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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by pErvinalia » Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:54 am

More people die in car accidents than that. [/Dutchy]
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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by Hermit » Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:05 am

pErvinalia wrote:
Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:54 am
More people die in car accidents than that. [/Dutchy]
Per day? [/Hermit]
Yes. The US is not a democracy. [/Dutchy]
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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by rainbow » Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:25 am

Hermit wrote:
Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:36 am
JimC wrote:
Fri Nov 20, 2020 1:54 am
Latest daily figures for the US show over 192,000 new cases and over 2,000 new deaths.
2000 out of 330 million? Meh.

Well, better than nothing, I suppose.
470 000 deaths by March, 2021.
https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-s ... &tab=trend
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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by Scot Dutchy » Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:08 am

rainbow wrote:
Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:25 am
Hermit wrote:
Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:36 am
JimC wrote:
Fri Nov 20, 2020 1:54 am
Latest daily figures for the US show over 192,000 new cases and over 2,000 new deaths.
2000 out of 330 million? Meh.

Well, better than nothing, I suppose.
470 000 deaths by March, 2021.
https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-s ... &tab=trend
Really? How many die due to the lack of healthcare?
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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by JimC » Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:57 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:
Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:08 am
rainbow wrote:
Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:25 am
Hermit wrote:
Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:36 am
JimC wrote:
Fri Nov 20, 2020 1:54 am
Latest daily figures for the US show over 192,000 new cases and over 2,000 new deaths.
2000 out of 330 million? Meh.

Well, better than nothing, I suppose.
470 000 deaths by March, 2021.
https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-s ... &tab=trend
Really? How many die due to the lack of healthcare?
That, of course, is a worthy question in its own right, but it does not alter the issue of covid deaths one iota...
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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by pErvinalia » Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:14 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:
Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:08 am
rainbow wrote:
Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:25 am
Hermit wrote:
Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:36 am
JimC wrote:
Fri Nov 20, 2020 1:54 am
Latest daily figures for the US show over 192,000 new cases and over 2,000 new deaths.
2000 out of 330 million? Meh.

Well, better than nothing, I suppose.
470 000 deaths by March, 2021.
https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-s ... &tab=trend
Really? How many die due to the lack of healthcare?
I don't know. Tell us Scot, how many die due to lack of healthcare?
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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by Hermit » Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:16 pm

pErvinalia wrote:
Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:14 pm
Scot Dutchy wrote:
Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:08 am
rainbow wrote:
Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:25 am
Hermit wrote:
Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:36 am
JimC wrote:
Fri Nov 20, 2020 1:54 am
Latest daily figures for the US show over 192,000 new cases and over 2,000 new deaths.
2000 out of 330 million? Meh.

Well, better than nothing, I suppose.
470 000 deaths by March, 2021.
https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-s ... &tab=trend
Really? How many die due to the lack of healthcare?
I don't know. Tell us Scot, how many die due to lack of healthcare?
None in the Netherlands. It has the best healthcare.
So you talk about mobs and the working classes as if they were the question. You've got that eternal idiotic idea that if anarchy came it would come from the poor. Why should it? The poor have been rebels, but they have never been anarchists; they have more interest than anyone else in there being some decent government. The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all. Aristocrats were always anarchists. - G.K. Chesterton

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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by JimC » Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:55 pm

Actually, there probably is a connection between deaths due to lack of health care in the US and coronavirus. I'm not sure how many deaths could be attributed to their malfunctioning health care system pre-covid (basically in poor, non-white areas), but 2 factors will almost certainly increase that number of non-covid deaths during this pandemic:

* articles have been written in Oz and elsewhere about the concern doctors have over patient's reluctance to go to clinics or hospitals to manage chronic conditions or to report other symptoms, due to various fears; it's likely this also applies in the US

* from all accounts, US hospitals are being swamped with covid cases, meaning there may be situations where there is simply no room for patients to be treated for other conditions.

To a degree, these factors will operate world-wide, but they will be exacerbated in counties with big coronavirus second waves and poorly designed health services...
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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by NineBerry » Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:10 am

The junior has the virus now.

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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by JimC » Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:50 am

The US is now consistently running at over 200,000 new cases per day and over 2,000 deaths.

Nero fiddled as Rome burned; Trump golfs as America dies...
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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by Sean Hayden » Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:59 am

Trump's not holding a gun to the head of all these jackasses carrying on like nothing's happening.

We have a people problem....


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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by JimC » Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:03 am

Certainly a large part of your problem has been ignorance, denial and irrational resistance to health measures from a significant proportion of your general population, so you can count that as part of your "people problem" mantra... ;)

But Trump's recalcitrance now and in the past have worsened your outcomes considerably...
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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by Sean Hayden » Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:06 am

I'm just pissed to see the crowds without masks lately.
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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by Scot Dutchy » Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:35 pm

Sean Hayden wrote:
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I'm just pissed to see the crowds without masks lately.
Why? They are not obviously working.
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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by Tero » Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:41 pm

I think we got to the Oklahoma tornado stage of the pandemic. They have people in Oklahoma not living in the safest of homes. Many have no basement, though they have a house, not a trailer. Anyway, with sirens going, people run indoors for cover. If they have run into the same house 20 years whenever a tornado warning siren sounds, they are now convinced that "my house is very safe, it has never been on the route of a tornado."

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