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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by rainbow » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:41 am

laklak wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 10:20 pm
They didn't know what they were dealing with at first, it looked like it could be a hell of a lot worse. The only thing not open here is booze only bars. Both deaths and new cases are still trending down. CDC has just revised their figures and it looks like it's not nearly as lethal as it originally appeared. No fault to the authorities, they made the best decisions they could under the circumstances.
The CDC director is a Trump lickspittle:
In 1992, the Defense Department investigated Redfield after he was accused of misrepresenting the effects of an experimental HIV vaccine, the study of which he had overseen.
Redfield served on the board of ASAP, which gay groups criticized for anti-gay, conservative Christian policies, such as abstinence-only prevention.[42] Redfield also authored the foreword to the book co-written by ASAP leader W. Shepard Smith, "Christians in the Age of AIDS", which discouraged the distribution of sterile needles to drug users as well as condom use, calling them "false prophets."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_R._Redfield

The excess death figures show that there has been an under-reporting of Covid-19 related deaths.
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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by Brian Peacock » Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:40 am

Scot Dutchy wrote:
Tue Sep 01, 2020 4:49 am
JimC wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:48 pm
Scot Dutchy wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:22 pm
Life goes on. Sweden and us are seldom mentioned. Why? We got it right. Ok in the beginning it did wobble but we are testing far more and still remaining stable. Sweden is almost back to 100% and we are almost there. Both countries without masks. We had official 50 so called covid deaths last week which is miniscule. Panic,panic, panic.
The "Imperial" model said there would be 200 million dead world wide. We have not reached one million. That is including all the third world dubious data. Well sanity reigns. Our kids have gone back to school. Offices are working again.
Denmark has had it schools open since April but that is never mentioned. We only live in a Anglo-Saxon world on this site. Pathetic. Talk about sheeple.
That model was to show what the numbers would be like without any control measures....
Still completely wrong.
No, that's exactly what the Imperial model was suggesting.
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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by L'Emmerdeur » Wed Sep 02, 2020 5:58 am

USA! USA! So much winning!

'"Nonsensical and Madness": Outrage After Trump Excludes US From WHO-Backed Global Vaccination Cooperation Pact'
Provoking a flurry of critical reactions from health experts and lawmakers, the Trump administration announced Tuesday afternoon that it will not participate in the "global effort to develop, manufacture, and equitably distribute a coronavirus vaccine, in part because the World Health Organization is involved"—a decision the Washington Post said "could shape the course of the pandemic and the country's role in health diplomacy" going forward.

The purpose of the Covid-19 Vaccines Global Access (Covax) Facility is to "speed vaccine development and secure doses for all countries and distribute them to the most high-risk segment of each population," explained the Post.

While more than 170 countries are in negotiations to participate in Covax, Judd Deere, a spokesperson for the White House, told reporters that "The United States will continue to engage our international partners to ensure we defeat this virus, but we will not be constrained by multilateral organizations influenced by the corrupt World Health Organization and China."

The Post described the decision as a "doubling down by the administration on its bet" that the U.S. will win the so-called "vaccine race."

Yet by foregoing the opportunity to "secure doses from a pool of promising vaccine candidates," the Trump administration is pursuing a "potentially risky strategy," the newspaper reported.

Lawrence Gostin, a professor of global health law at Georgetown University told the Post that "America is taking a huge gamble by taking a go-it-alone strategy."

Senator Chris Van Hollen tweeted that "Trump’s go-it-alone strategy has already given us the highest death toll in the world. At his inaugural, he spoke of 'American carnage' and he now seems determined to make it a reality."

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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by rainbow » Wed Sep 02, 2020 6:38 am

Trump is taking the gamble, but the people of the US will take the losses.

It is part of his tried and tested business model.

What could possibly go wrong?
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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by JimC » Wed Sep 02, 2020 8:48 am

Sometimes it seems that Americans, not just Trump, see the rest of the world as somehow unreal...
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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by Brian Peacock » Wed Sep 02, 2020 9:01 am

It's a throw of the dice with a loss on every side.
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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by Tero » Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:59 pm

Large university fails, shuts down for 2 weeks
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https://www.npr.org/sections/coronaviru ... case-spike
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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by rainbow » Fri Sep 04, 2020 7:39 am

Tero wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:59 pm
Large university fails, shuts down for 2 weeks
Don't worry. It'll be over by the Spring.
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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by Hermit » Fri Sep 04, 2020 9:09 am

rainbow wrote:
Fri Sep 04, 2020 7:39 am
Tero wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:59 pm
Large university fails, shuts down for 2 weeks
Don't worry. It'll be over by the Spring.
"It's going to disappear. One day it's like a miracle, it will disappear. And from our shores, we — you know, it could get worse before it gets better. It could maybe go away. We’ll see what happens. Nobody really knows."
So you talk about mobs and the working classes as if they were the question. You've got that eternal idiotic idea that if anarchy came it would come from the poor. Why should it? The poor have been rebels, but they have never been anarchists; they have more interest than anyone else in there being some decent government. The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all. Aristocrats were always anarchists. - G.K. Chesterton

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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by rainbow » Fri Sep 04, 2020 9:25 am

Hermit wrote:
Fri Sep 04, 2020 9:09 am
rainbow wrote:
Fri Sep 04, 2020 7:39 am
Tero wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:59 pm
Large university fails, shuts down for 2 weeks
Don't worry. It'll be over by the Spring.
"It's going to disappear. One day it's like a miracle, it will disappear. And from our shores, we — you know, it could get worse before it gets better. It could maybe go away. We’ll see what happens. Nobody really knows."
It is the warm weather. Coronaviruses can't cope with it. That is why there are very few cases in California, Florida and Texas.
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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by Hermit » Fri Sep 04, 2020 9:39 am

rainbow wrote:
Fri Sep 04, 2020 9:25 am
Hermit wrote:
Fri Sep 04, 2020 9:09 am
rainbow wrote:
Fri Sep 04, 2020 7:39 am
Tero wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:59 pm
Large university fails, shuts down for 2 weeks
Don't worry. It'll be over by the Spring.
"It's going to disappear. One day it's like a miracle, it will disappear. And from our shores, we — you know, it could get worse before it gets better. It could maybe go away. We’ll see what happens. Nobody really knows."
It is the warm weather. Coronaviruses can't cope with it. That is why there are very few cases in California, Florida and Texas.
...and so many in New Zealand's south island.
So you talk about mobs and the working classes as if they were the question. You've got that eternal idiotic idea that if anarchy came it would come from the poor. Why should it? The poor have been rebels, but they have never been anarchists; they have more interest than anyone else in there being some decent government. The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all. Aristocrats were always anarchists. - G.K. Chesterton

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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by Tero » Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:20 am

One day Trump, like a miracle, will disappear.
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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by Joe » Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:02 pm

I will cherish the silence.
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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by JimC » Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:07 pm

Joe wrote:
Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:02 pm
I will cherish the silence.
...aside from the almost constant gunfire...
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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by Joe » Sat Sep 05, 2020 4:33 am

JimC wrote:
Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:07 pm
Joe wrote:
Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:02 pm
I will cherish the silence.
...aside from the almost constant gunfire...
You've never priced ammunition in the US, have you? :biggrin:
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