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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by Joe » Sat May 16, 2020 9:53 pm

Like the old joke.
Why Worry?

In life, there are really only two things to worry about. Either you are well, or you are sick.

If you are well, there's nothing to worry about.

If you are sick, there are two things to worry about. Either you get better, or you die.

If you get better, there's nothing to worry about.

If you die, there are two things to worry about. Going to Heaven, or going to Hell.

If you go to Heaven, there's nothing to worry about.

If you go to Hell, you'll be so busy shaking hands with all your friends that you won't have time to worry...so why worry?
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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by Tero » Sat May 16, 2020 11:39 pm

It's really massive!

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He declared that the administration is "reigniting our economic engines" as most states move toward reopening. He said that America has the "largest and most ambitious testing system in the world" (an echo of the giant "America Leads The World in Testing" campaign-style banners that the White House erected for Monday's briefing). And Trump promised that the administration's vaccine development effort -- "Operation Warp Speed" -- will be "a massive scientific, industrial, and logistical endeavor unlike anything our country has seen since the Manhattan Project."

"Vaccine or no vaccine, we're back," Trump said Friday. "We think we are going to have a vaccine in the pretty near future, and if we do, we are going to really be a big step ahead, and if we don't, we are going to be like so many other cases where you had a problem come in -- it'll go away at some point, it'll go away."

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/05/16/poli ... index.html

It will go away about the time Joe Biden is sworn in.
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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by Cunt » Sun May 17, 2020 3:58 am

Tero wrote:
Sat May 16, 2020 11:39 pm
It's really massive!

CNN
He declared that the administration is "reigniting our economic engines" as most states move toward reopening. He said that America has the "largest and most ambitious testing system in the world" (an echo of the giant "America Leads The World in Testing" campaign-style banners that the White House erected for Monday's briefing). And Trump promised that the administration's vaccine development effort -- "Operation Warp Speed" -- will be "a massive scientific, industrial, and logistical endeavor unlike anything our country has seen since the Manhattan Project."

"Vaccine or no vaccine, we're back," Trump said Friday. "We think we are going to have a vaccine in the pretty near future, and if we do, we are going to really be a big step ahead, and if we don't, we are going to be like so many other cases where you had a problem come in -- it'll go away at some point, it'll go away."

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/05/16/poli ... index.html

It will go away about the time Joe Biden is sworn in.
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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by Seabass » Sun May 17, 2020 4:19 am

Sen. Kennedy: 'I Don't Want To Have To Wear A Mask In The Shower'
https://crooksandliars.com/2020/05/sen- ... -wear-mask
Some things are just too stupid to ignore, and this is one: Sen. John Kennedy (LA) clowns it up for the cameras on Fox News (naturally!) yesterday. With a chyron saying "Sen. Kennedy on Pelosi's Far-Left Wish List," he attacked the Democrats' HERO Act. Yes, this United States senator plays an idiot: "I don't want to have to wear a face mask in the shower! That's the kind of stuff OSHA promulgates every day."
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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by Seabass » Sun May 17, 2020 6:09 am

Obama team left pandemic playbook for Trump administration, officials confirm
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/oba ... ls-confirm
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell alleged that the Obama administration did not provide the Trump administration with any information about the threat of a possible pandemic during a May 11 Team Trump Facebook Live discussion with Lara Trump.
Soon after McConnell made his playbook comment, Ronald Klain, the White House Ebola response coordinator from October 2014 to February 2015, tweeted out a link to a document titled “Playbook for Early Response to High-Consequence Emerging Infectious Disease Threats and Biological Incidents.”

The document, originally unearthed in March by Politico, is a 69-page National Security Council guidebook developed in 2016 with the goal of assisting leaders “in coordinating a complex U.S. Government response to a high-consequence emerging disease threat anywhere in the world.” It outlined questions to ask, who should be asked to get the answers and what key decisions should be made.

Nicole Lurie, another Obama administration official, confirmed to us the existence of the NSC pandemic playbook and also said similar documents were created for the Department of Health and Human Services and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

“To say there was no playbook was ridiculous,” said Lurie, who served as the assistant secretary for preparedness and response at HHS during both terms of the Obama administration.
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said the Obama administration did not leave behind a “game plan” for a pandemic.

That’s wrong.

Multiple Obama-era officials have said they left a 2016 “pandemic playbook” that detailed exact steps to take in the event of an infectious disease outbreak. The White House press secretary even held up the actual document on the White House lawn.

There has been discussion in recent days as to whether the Obama plan was dated because it dealt with lessons learned from earlier outbreaks that may not apply to the current pandemic. Still, McConnell’s statement focused only on whether any such “game plan” existed, and ample evidence suggests it did.

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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by pErvinalia » Sun May 17, 2020 7:05 am

The brazen lying is troubling. We have a similar feel in Australian politics. These people really have no integrity. It's shameless power grabbing.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Sun May 17, 2020 7:05 am

The CDC hasn't updated its situation report since 19 April.
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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by NineBerry » Sun May 17, 2020 8:52 am

The French say the miracle drug does more harm than good.
Results In the main analysis, 84 patients who received hydroxychloroquine within 48 hours of admission to hospital (treatment group) were compared with 89 patients who did not receive hydroxychloroquine (control group). Eight additional patients received hydroxychloroquine more than 48 hours after admission. In the weighted analyses, the survival rate without transfer to the intensive care unit at day 21 was 76% in the treatment group and 75% in the control group (weighted hazard ratio 0.9, 95% confidence interval 0.4 to 2.1). Overall survival at day 21 was 89% in the treatment group and 91% in the control group (1.2, 0.4 to 3.3). Survival without acute respiratory distress syndrome at day 21 was 69% in the treatment group compared with 74% in the control group (1.3, 0.7 to 2.6). At day 21, 82% of patients in the treatment group had been weaned from oxygen compared with 76% in the control group (weighted risk ratio 1.1, 95% confidence interval 0.9 to 1.3). Eight patients in the treatment group (10%) experienced electrocardiographic modifications that required discontinuation of treatment.

Conclusions Hydroxychloroquine has received worldwide attention as a potential treatment for covid-19 because of positive results from small studies. However, the results of this study do not support its use in patients admitted to hospital with covid-19 who require oxygen.
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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by Svartalf » Sun May 17, 2020 9:02 am

well, the thing is that a) chloroquine and derivated drugs has shown antiviral properties in vitro rather than when administered to a living being and b) in the panic generated by the epidemic, some morons touted or rushed treatments without proper evidence that they were any actual good.

I'm afraid that the good prof Raoult here is seeing his career take a downturn from which it may never recover.

this debacle could be foreseen from the outset.
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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by Svartalf » Sun May 17, 2020 9:28 am

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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by Tero » Sun May 17, 2020 10:54 am

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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by Seabass » Mon May 18, 2020 12:45 am

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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by Tero » Mon May 18, 2020 10:53 am

Fat president blames fat people. And CDC. It's like WHO but it's here and full of never trumpers.
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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by Brian Peacock » Mon May 18, 2020 3:57 pm

Only America has 'pre-existing conditions' - the rest of the world just call them 'conditions'.
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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by Tero » Mon May 18, 2020 7:08 pm

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